Bent Over Barbell Rows

**buildingup** · 09-05-2005, 09:28 AM

Im going to start doing these instead of doing seated rows as this is the last machine exercise i do and would like to do everything with free weights apart from cable exercises!
Has anyone got any tips on doing this exercise?

**min0 lee** · 09-05-2005, 09:34 AM

These are my favorites.

**KEFE** · 09-05-2005, 09:42 AM

i do 1 arms with 25 pounds max is 50 on one arm

**buildingup** · 09-05-2005, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by KEFE

i do 1 arms with 25 pounds max is 50 on one arm

and i care because???
just answer my question or say nothing

**LexusGS** · 09-05-2005, 10:09 AM

lol

**turbine5** · 09-05-2005, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by KEFE

i do 1 arms with 25 pounds max is 50 on one arm

i do 1 arms with 80 lbs, barbell with 185

**buildingup** · 09-05-2005, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by turbine5

i do 1 arms with 80 lbs, barbell with 175

Your so fucking funny you weak retard!

**buildingup** · 09-05-2005, 10:30 AM

and stop fucking changing your weights to impress people at the end of the day your a stick man now fuck off

**turbine5** · 09-05-2005, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by buildingup

and stop fucking changing your weights to impress people at the end of the day your a stick man now fuck off

yeah...I'm sure a 185 lb barbell row really impresses people

from what I understand, your barbell row numbers should be similar to barbell bench numbers to avoid the shoulders pulled forward look.....in which case I have to increase my row by 120

**KEFE** · 09-05-2005, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by turbine5

i do 1 arms with 80 lbs, barbell with 185

yup and im 12

**turbine5** · 09-05-2005, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by KEFE

yup and im 12

hey, good job...how much do you weigh?

**Fujiama** · 09-05-2005, 10:51 AM

@buildingup
I made the experience that I get a better feeling in the muscles by pulling the shoulders back first. So I first start pulling the shoulders back and then the arms. and of course, doing the exercise this way, you are avoiding cheat-reps.

**buildingup** · 09-05-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Fujiama

@buildingup
I made the experience that I get a better feeling in the muscles by pulling the shoulders back first. So I first start pulling the shoulders back and then the arms. and of course, doing the exercise this way, you are avoiding cheat-reps.

good advice and i will try!

**The Monkey Man** · 09-05-2005, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by turbine5

from what I understand, your barbell row numbers should be similar to barbell bench numbers to avoid the shoulders pulled forward look

You should analyze entirely, the total amount of work you do
in your whole WO split (Both front, & back)

then form a percentage for each one...

Don't to forget to add in all front delt work...
Bench - incl, dcline, flat
shoulder press - DB, BB
DIPS, CLOSE GRIPS...ETC

Then on the opposite spectrum with back movements
add all of those you can think of

Then take in to account that your LATS are a larger muscle group
then your chest/front delt/tri, o you can increase the reatio slightly
to allow for this

JMO - run with it!

**KEFE** · 09-05-2005, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by turbine5

hey, good job...how much do you weigh?

round 100 wit lil body fat im 4'11

**KEFE** · 09-05-2005, 11:40 AM

it was 4 weks ago that i wieghd 92 but i have been workin harder so i probly whey 100 or more now

**turbine5** · 09-05-2005, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by KEFE

round 100 wit lil body fat im 4'11

hey 130 bench at 100 body weight is really good

**KEFE** · 09-05-2005, 02:08 PM

are you on msn right now cuz i tried to add you

**CowPimp** · 09-05-2005, 02:11 PM

Just make sure to retract scapula and "pull with your elbows." Also, make sure to play around with grip width. I have found that I prefer a more narrow grip than most.

**turbine5** · 09-05-2005, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by KEFE

are you on msn right now cuz i tried to add you

no, just got back from gym, don't use msn much

**The Monkey Man** · 09-05-2005, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I prefer a more narrow grip than most

Alternate pronated and supinated grips in at least
wide, narrow, and a comfortable medium grip range
for as many exercises as you like

This would increase use of more muscle, contributing to a well
rounded physique, as well as making your strengths more versatile
for any sport or movement

JMO

**buildingup** · 09-07-2005, 11:29 AM

Are you supposed to bring it up to your chest or stomach? and should it ideally be touching your body at the top of the movement?

**CowPimp** · 09-07-2005, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by buildingup

Are you supposed to bring it up to your chest or stomach? and should it ideally be touching your body at the top of the movement?

Bring it up to your chest if you want to give your posterior delts more. Keeping your arms perpendicular to your torso allows your posterior delts to do more work. Keeping your arms more parallel to your torso allows your lats to do more work.

Also, I suggest touching your body. Full range of motion is always a good idea if it doesn't hurt you.

**buildingup** · 09-07-2005, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Bring it up to your chest if you want to give your posterior delts more. Keeping your arms perpendicular to your torso allows your posterior delts to do more work. Keeping your arms more parallel to your torso allows your lats to do more work.

Also, I suggest touching your body. Full range of motion is always a good idea if it doesn't hurt you.

ok

**CowPimp** · 09-07-2005, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by buildingup

parallel? you mean the bar right not arms!

No, I mean your arms. By parallel, I mean tucked up against your sides. Perpendicular would be extended out to the sides.

**buildingup** · 09-07-2005, 11:49 AM

But i dont want the exercise to work specifically lats but more of the thickness of the back such as the rhomboids

**buildingup** · 09-07-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

No, I mean your arms. By parallel, I mean tucked up against your sides. Perpendicular would be extended out to the sides.

didnt read properly i edited it before!

**CowPimp** · 09-07-2005, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by buildingup

But i dont want the exercise to work specifically lats but more of the thickness of the back such as the rhomboids

It's not going to specifically work the lats while excluding other muscles. The rhomboids, posterior delts, and lower/middle traps are still going to be worked during any form of rowing. I was just saying that you can shift the emphasis between the lats and posterior delts depending on the position of your arms.

**furion joe** · 09-07-2005, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by buildingup

Has anyone got any tips on doing this exercise?

I see you have already received some good advice, I'd just like to add a few things.

Bent over barbell rows are a great mass building exercise so try to do them first in your back workout, when you are fresh, so you can go as heavy as possible (while maintaining good form).

And most of all, think contraction, bring the elbows back and squeeze. Keep the movement fluid, at a smooth rhythmic pace.

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