Walking burns A LOT more fat than Cardio

pumpthatiron · 09-05-2005, 08:53 PM

I was talking to these personal trainers at my university gym, (one guy is 250 pounds with 6 percent bodyfat). I was like what's the best way to lose weight. He's like stop doing cardio and start walking more. He was telling me that walking burns a lot more fat than doing cardio. He was like when you're doing cardio, when you go above a certain heartrate, like 120, ur body starts working ur heart and stops burning fat. He was like he never does cardio. I wonder what you guys think about this?

MyK · 09-05-2005, 08:57 PM

there are so many variables that go into fat loss. your post is just oversimplifying and ignores the relevance of both diet and weight training. I do cardio, because I love to work out my heart, and because it burns fat, thats a fact.

**Mudge** · 09-05-2005, 09:15 PM

High intensity exercise burns energy stores that are quickly broken down, like glycogen. Fat stores take time to break into and are done through non-aerobic activities.

Low impact activities like walking are also a lot easier on a 250 pound body.

Squaggleboggin · 09-05-2005, 10:14 PM

Well it certainly can't be denied that walking is one of the healthiest things you can do to keep your body in shape. It works your entire cardiovascular system and burns fat. As Mudge said, it takes time to break down advanced fat stores, so walking for about 45 minutes a day will probably go a long way come six to eight weeks from when you start. Try it. It's not like it'll interfere with your other workouts - it's very low impact and great for you.

Tough Old Man · 09-05-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

High intensity exercise burns energy stores that are quickly broken down, like glycogen. Fat stores take time to break into and are done through non-aerobic activities.

Low impact activities like walking are also a lot easier on a 250 pound body.

Agree and nothing like running to help you lose all that hard work you did to get those quads where you wanted them

TheUnlikelyHERO · 09-05-2005, 10:30 PM

I disagree. Even though walking burns fat at a higher percentage than glycogen, it's still burning a lot less calories than running or even doing HIIT. Even if glycogen is mostly burned during exercise above 70% intensity, it's still burning much more calories than walking, and even with the fat not being burned much the higher calories burned still makes the fat higher. Furthermore, the body conserves the energy source that it used during exericse and burns it's counter-part after exercise. Meaning, if fat was burning primarily during exercise then glycogen will be burned afterwards, and vice versa. That's why HIIT is so good because since it burns lots of glycogen during the exericse and since it raises your metabolic rate, insulin sensitivity, and FFA oxidation, the body burns mostly fat for up to 24 hours after exericse (if you do it hard enough).

Walking is definately fine to add to a cardio routine that's low impact but it shouldn't be the main cardio exercise. However, I can't speak for those people that have 230+ pounds of muscle - when low intensity cardio is preffered. But even at that point, walking really is only helping a little due to the fact that with all that muscle theyre burning fat like crazy all day because of all the muscle around. For those that aren't like them they shouldn't train like them.

Squaggleboggin · 09-05-2005, 10:40 PM

You could also argue, then, that weightlifting is the best way to burn fat because it raises your metabolism for more than 48 hours in some cases. I'd still say walking is one of the best ways to burn fat. Especially since the high-impact stuff will tear apart your knees in the long run. Many people stay healthy for a lifetime simply by walking. It's safe and effective.

**Mudge** · 09-05-2005, 11:11 PM

HIIT vs low impact studies have been done.

And yes, its already been argued that weight training is a good way to raise your metabolic requirements.

mr_oo3 · 09-05-2005, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyHERO

I disagree. Even though walking burns fat at a higher percentage than glycogen, it's still burning a lot less calories than running or even doing HIIT. Even if glycogen is mostly burned during exercise above 70% intensity, it's still burning much more calories than walking, and even with the fat not being burned much the higher calories burned still makes the fat higher. Furthermore, the body conserves the energy source that it used during exericse and burns it's counter-part after exercise. Meaning, if fat was burning primarily during exercise then glycogen will be burned afterwards, and vice versa. That's why HIIT is so good because since it burns lots of glycogen during the exericse and since it raises your metabolic rate, insulin sensitivity, and FFA oxidation, the body burns mostly fat for up to 24 hours after exericse (if you do it hard enough).

Walking is definately fine to add to a cardio routine that's low impact but it shouldn't be the main cardio exercise. However, I can't speak for those people that have 230+ pounds of muscle - when low intensity cardio is preffered. But even at that point, walking really is only helping a little due to the fact that with all that muscle theyre burning fat like crazy all day because of all the muscle around. For those that aren't like them they shouldn't train like them.

Agree. It's like you burn 200 cals with walking, 100 cals of fat. But with sprints you burn 500 cals, 200 cals of fat. Lower percentage, but higher absolute value. (BTW those values are just made up)

**CowPimp** · 09-06-2005, 12:38 AM

Calories in vs. calories out: If you burn more calories doing cardio, then your body is going to have to tap into your fat stores to perform other very low intensity aerobic activities, like walking, throughout the rest of the day. Not to mention that keeping an elevated heart rate boosts your RMR for hours after your finish exercising.

This isn't to say that there is no merit behind what this fellow is saying. Certainly, the less intense the exercise and the longer the duration, the more likely fat stores are to be burned. The more intense and the shorter the duration, the more likely ATP/CP and/or glycogen stores will be utilized. However, I still wouldn't stop doing cardio. It is also good for your heart...

99hawkins · 09-06-2005, 08:11 AM

Like, well, I would think, like, running gets your, like, heart rate going faster, like and to put into simplistic terms, like, surely that burns more fat, like?

MuscleM4n · 09-06-2005, 08:13 AM

i think that's proper bullshit.

Yes your heart does more work but you still will burn the fat cells for needed energy.
Jogging/running is better than walking becuase it is more intense = you will need to use up more energy stored in fat cells.

Just becuase the guy is 250lbs and 6% bodyfat (probably exaggerated figure anyway) does not confirm this theory to hold any substance

Du · 09-06-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Low impact activities like walking are also a lot easier on a 250 pound body.

Ya sure got that right...

**Mudge** · 09-06-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MuscleM4n

i think that's proper bullshit.

Yes your heart does more work but you still will burn the fat cells for needed energy.
Jogging/running is better than walking becuase it is more intense = you will need to use up more energy stored in fat cells.

How about reading on how slowly fat is broken down for energy useage so you can discover what the "proper bullshit" here really is.

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Originally Posted by MuscleM4n

Just becuase the guy is 250lbs and 6% bodyfat (probably exaggerated figure anyway) does not confirm this theory to hold any substance

Who said anything about theories, your theory versus proven science? Read what Cowpimp said, there are your clues.

MuscleM4n · 09-06-2005, 10:16 AM

Ok so i am wrong. No problem and sorry

By the way the guy says he is 250lbs at 6% bodyfat, if he dropped 1/2% bodyfat and at 235lbs or so he would be good enough to compete at the Mr.O as long as he doesn't look like Gregg Valentino, so i doubt he is telling the whole truth.

pumpthatiron · 09-06-2005, 10:55 AM

he said either 6% or 8%, im guessing its 8. He said he was still cutting though. I started walking to all my classes. That is 4 sessions of a mile walk in each session. I will also do cardio in addition to that. I lift weights 3-4 times a week so that should help too. Working on the diet.

MuscleM4n · 09-06-2005, 11:01 AM

Sounds like your doing good pumpthatiron.

Just be consistant, that is the key

Tough Old Man · 09-06-2005, 10:20 PM

Oh hell I dropped the last 9% BF I need in three days and gained 30 lbs of LBM in that time. Think I'll continue with my 45 min brisk walk between now and the O and beat the shit out of all of those guys who put in 15 yrs to my 18 months.

I am Tough, aren't I

pumpthatiron · 11-12-2005, 09:14 AM

ur weak lol jp

Incognegro · 11-12-2005, 09:30 AM

I walk consistently over 12-13 a miles a day. For one I have to walk everywhere, or take public transportation since I do not have use of 4 or 2 wheels consistently. With my weak back, walking has proven more effective than running for me in terms of fat-burning/comfort. Running (esp on concrete) kills my spine (Its like a mini earthquake everytime you hit the pavement). When I run, I do it on a treadmill, and I do HIIT. My back gets sore if I go for any perioud longer than half an hour currently, but that is changing! I used to not be able to run at all with consistent pain.

However, everybody is different. But all my walking/bike riding has worked for me.

J

LAM · 11-12-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MuscleM4n

By the way the guy says he is 250lbs at 6% bodyfat, if he dropped 1/2% bodyfat and at 235lbs or so he would be good enough to compete at the Mr.O as long as he doesn't look like Gregg Valentino, so i doubt he is telling the whole truth.

if this guy is really a NPC competitor and has gotten his pro card then he uses a SHIT LOAD of gear and is most likely on gear 12 months out of the year. so yes, walking for "him" would be of great benefit. increased levels of androgens have a very positive effect on lipolysis.

AKIRA · 11-12-2005, 07:46 PM

Hmm, I thought walking was a form of cardio...

Tough Old Man · 11-12-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

High intensity exercise burns energy stores that are quickly broken down, like glycogen. Fat stores take time to break into and are done through non-aerobic activities.

Low impact activities like walking are also a lot easier on a 250 pound body.

I agree totally with mudge on this. When you get yourself above the heartrate of about 60-65% of your max then your going to also start burning LBM and that's bad. The ideal thing to do obviously is keep all LBM and reduce B/F. IMO this can be achieved by keeping your cardio to 45 to 60 mins. A brisk walk, bicycle, elipitical or whatever will do it. Not important on what you use but how you use it. Need to keep your heart rate around 60-65% of the MHR.

Tough

patricio223 · 11-14-2005, 10:55 PM

if you walk the same distance you run, you burn nearly the same amount of calories... most runners burn out pretty fast while walkers will keep going for much longer burning more calories. Not to mention i just hate running, and love walking

The13ig13adWolf · 11-15-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pumpthatiron

he said either 6% or 8%, im guessing its 8. He said he was still cutting though. I started walking to all my classes. That is 4 sessions of a mile walk in each session. I will also do cardio in addition to that. I lift weights 3-4 times a week so that should help too. Working on the diet.

most people drastically underestimate their bf%. i doubt he's at 6% at this stage. that's very difficult to maintain. not to mention most testing methods are off by +/- 3% give or take.

Tough Old Man · 11-15-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

most people drastically underestimate their bf%. i doubt he's at 6% at this stage. that's very difficult to maintain. not to mention most testing methods are off by +/- 3% give or take.

and all this is not important. If this guy has 10% B/F at 250 lbs he's going to look good to about 99% of the people posting here.
All Agree?

If you disagree then 99% of you haven't seen Mr. LAM in person like I have and he's only 240-245 @ 10% B/F

09-05-2005, 08:53 PM	#1
pumpthatiron Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 639 Photos: 1	Walking burns A LOT more fat than Cardio I was talking to these personal trainers at my university gym, (one guy is 250 pounds with 6 percent bodyfat). I was like what's the best way to lose weight. He's like stop doing cardio and start walking more. He was telling me that walking burns a lot more fat than doing cardio. He was like when you're doing cardio, when you go above a certain heartrate, like 120, ur body starts working ur heart and stops burning fat. He was like he never does cardio. I wonder what you guys think about this?

09-05-2005, 09:15 PM	#3
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,069 Photos: 1	High intensity exercise burns energy stores that are quickly broken down, like glycogen. Fat stores take time to break into and are done through non-aerobic activities. Low impact activities like walking are also a lot easier on a 250 pound body.
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Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Well it certainly can't be denied that walking is one of the healthiest things you can do to keep your body in shape. It works your entire cardiovascular system and burns fat. As Mudge said, it takes time to break down advanced fat stores, so walking for about 45 minutes a day will probably go a long way come six to eight weeks from when you start. Try it. It's not like it'll interfere with your other workouts - it's very low impact and great for you.
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09-05-2005, 10:30 PM	#6
TheUnlikelyHERO .. Ascending .. Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	I disagree. Even though walking burns fat at a higher percentage than glycogen, it's still burning a lot less calories than running or even doing HIIT. Even if glycogen is mostly burned during exercise above 70% intensity, it's still burning much more calories than walking, and even with the fat not being burned much the higher calories burned still makes the fat higher. Furthermore, the body conserves the energy source that it used during exericse and burns it's counter-part after exercise. Meaning, if fat was burning primarily during exercise then glycogen will be burned afterwards, and vice versa. That's why HIIT is so good because since it burns lots of glycogen during the exericse and since it raises your metabolic rate, insulin sensitivity, and FFA oxidation, the body burns mostly fat for up to 24 hours after exericse (if you do it hard enough). Walking is definately fine to add to a cardio routine that's low impact but it shouldn't be the main cardio exercise. However, I can't speak for those people that have 230+ pounds of muscle - when low intensity cardio is preffered. But even at that point, walking really is only helping a little due to the fact that with all that muscle theyre burning fat like crazy all day because of all the muscle around. For those that aren't like them they shouldn't train like them.
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09-05-2005, 10:40 PM	#7
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	You could also argue, then, that weightlifting is the best way to burn fat because it raises your metabolism for more than 48 hours in some cases. I'd still say walking is one of the best ways to burn fat. Especially since the high-impact stuff will tear apart your knees in the long run. Many people stay healthy for a lifetime simply by walking. It's safe and effective.
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09-05-2005, 08:57 PM	#2
MyK Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: consumerville! Posts: 10,201 Photos: 1	there are so many variables that go into fat loss. your post is just oversimplifying and ignores the relevance of both diet and weight training. I do cardio, because I love to work out my heart, and because it burns fat, thats a fact.

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MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	i think that's proper bullshit. Yes your heart does more work but you still will burn the fat cells for needed energy. Jogging/running is better than walking becuase it is more intense = you will need to use up more energy stored in fat cells. Just becuase the guy is 250lbs and 6% bodyfat (probably exaggerated figure anyway) does not confirm this theory to hold any substance
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MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	Ok so i am wrong. No problem and sorry By the way the guy says he is 250lbs at 6% bodyfat, if he dropped 1/2% bodyfat and at 235lbs or so he would be good enough to compete at the Mr.O as long as he doesn't look like Gregg Valentino, so i doubt he is telling the whole truth. Last edited by MuscleM4n : 09-06-2005 at 10:38 AM.
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pumpthatiron Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 639 Photos: 1	he said either 6% or 8%, im guessing its 8. He said he was still cutting though. I started walking to all my classes. That is 4 sessions of a mile walk in each session. I will also do cardio in addition to that. I lift weights 3-4 times a week so that should help too. Working on the diet.

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patricio223 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 154 Photos: 2	if you walk the same distance you run, you burn nearly the same amount of calories... most runners burn out pretty fast while walkers will keep going for much longer burning more calories. Not to mention i just hate running, and love walking

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