decline.....bench

walter · 08-23-2001, 11:12 AM

did 225*20 and 340 easy

**Prince** · 08-23-2001, 12:02 PM

why would you do a set of 20? warm-up?

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LatinoHeat · 08-23-2001, 06:58 PM

Ay, Walt, ya need to lay off the declines, unless you want droopy pecs. Ya need to work the upper pecs! What do ya do on the incline bench?

walter · 08-23-2001, 07:25 PM

did 225 20 times because I was trying to beat a record which I did. Iclines I can do 255 for 5, and regular bench 315 for 2, 275 for 7, almost eight and 340 easy money

**MtnBikerChk** · 08-24-2001, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by walter:
did 225*20 and 340 easy

Thanks for sharing.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-24-2001, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by walter:
did 225*20 and 340 easy

Me and MBC mountain biked around the local reservoir in personal best time, 68 minutes.

[Edited 1 time by I Are Baboon on 08-24-2001 at 05:38 AM]

w8lifter · 08-24-2001, 05:14 AM

I sprinted up and down a hill for an hour yesterday.

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Pemburu · 08-24-2001, 05:14 AM

IAB & MBC
Was it "Easy"???

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**I Are Baboon** · 08-24-2001, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by Pemburu:
IAB & MBC
Was it "Easy"???

Nope. It's a lot of uphill climbing, which hurts like hell (almost puked from it once). Once you get to the "top", it's a lot of rough downhill terrain. Rocks, logs, streams. An hour of that and we are usually pretty exhausted. Lots of fun though! I just bought a new bike and we're getting MBC one in a the next few days.

EDIT: Pemburu, I get it. (pardon me...I'm a little slow)

[Edited 2 times, lastly by I Are Baboon on 08-24-2001 at 07:19 AM]

**I Are Baboon** · 08-24-2001, 05:18 AM

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Originally posted by w8lifter:
I sprinted up and down a hill for an hour yesterday.

Pemburu · 08-24-2001, 05:28 AM

IAB,
I'm still using my Diamondback Apex I got back in '90. Lived in Alaska then and did a lot of riding around Kodiak Island. Understand about the puking part. One ride I used to do was 28 min up hill, half the time on the "granny" sprocket. It was a 3 min. ride back down. I guess I should thank God I'm still alive after those rides. Most of the time coming back down you were vibrating and bouncing so much you really couldn't see what you were doing.
Have a great time and enjoy.

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TheSupremeBeing · 08-24-2001, 05:40 AM

LOL at declines giving droopy pecs and "easy money"...

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w8lifter · 08-24-2001, 08:57 AM

We had a new guy try out for our grappling classes yesterday. He spent a half hour afterwards puking in the sink

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walter · 08-24-2001, 09:33 AM

i can't believe but notice some jealousy on this board

08-24-2001, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by walter:
i can't believe but notice some jealousy on this board

Walter I can`t believe anyone would be jealous of someone they don`t know.If you want to list personal best that`s fine, some people will be impressed and others won`t give a sh?t. Some of us try for personal best and others just try for strict form with lower weights. Myself I workout at home without a training partner so personal best are not an option. So if you want to list personal best just be prepared for opinions from both sides of the coin.

**Prince** · 08-24-2001, 06:10 PM

I keep hearing everyone raving over declines, soooo...it was chest day today, and guess what I decided to do? Yup, declines.

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Pemburu · 08-24-2001, 07:23 PM

I have to confess...I did them also. I did BB declines. It's a little intimidating to do with no spotter. I hate getting close to failure and having to put it back on the rack above my forehead.

I then went to dumbbell inclines and increase the incline until I was doing a shoulder workout. That way I felt better about skipping inclines, because I didn't.

Still waiting and watching for the drooping pecs.

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[Edited 1 time by Pemburu on 08-24-2001 at 09:25 PM]

**Prince** · 08-25-2001, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Pemburu:
Still waiting and watching for the drooping pecs.

LOL. That does not happen until reach your 50's!

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Mace · 08-25-2001, 08:46 AM

Hey, some people like droopy pecks...

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**MtnBikerChk** · 08-25-2001, 04:18 PM

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[b]So if you want to list personal best just be prepared for opinions from both sides of the coin.

If it's Yea Rah Rah you want, you are in the right place. But be careful how you approach it "did 225*20 and 340 easy " sounds arrogant.

How can I possibly be jealous?

Main Entry: jeal·ous
Pronunciation: 'je-l&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English jelous, from Old French, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin zelosus, from Late Latin zelus zeal -- more at ZEAL
Date: 13th century
1 a : intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness
2 : hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage
3 : vigilant in guarding a possession <new colonies were jealous of their new independence -- Scott Buchanan>

Jealous, I am not.

I think I speak for all of us when I say, "good job."

[Edited 1 time by MtnBikerChick on 08-25-2001 at 06:22 PM]

LatinoHeat · 08-25-2001, 05:54 PM

Walt, if you want to decline, then decline. This is for Pemburu and TheSupremeBeing: declines work the lower pecs, inclines the upper. In my humble opinion, filling in the upper pecs leads to a more impressive looking chest. Therefore, now follow me gentlemen, if ya have more lower chest mass then upper, ya get droopy pecs. Get it?

Pemburu · 08-25-2001, 06:13 PM

Sorry Prince, you don't have to wait till 50 to get them. Those Droopy things that is.

Latinheat, I never did declines until recently and .....I'm ashamed to say it....but...I think I've already got them.(DPs) There I said it. I've confessed the deep dark secret. Therefore IMHO, I believe it's more of a genetic thing, not a decline thing.

Please don't get Mr. TSB on speed here about hitting the chest from all the angles, what will build the upper, lower, this fiber, that fiber, incline this, decline that.....please have mercy on us all and stop while there's still some bandwidth on the web.

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TheSupremeBeing · 08-25-2001, 07:21 PM

Yeah, I don't feel like going through this again.

Suffice to say that Latino is 100% wrong and you won't get "droopy" pecs from doing decline presses and using different angles on a bench does not target different areas of the chest. In actuality your "upper" chest will grow more from declines than inclines.

I just get amused now....believe what ya want.

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LatinoHeat · 08-25-2001, 07:56 PM

Nuff said, TSB. Believe what ya want-

TheSupremeBeing · 08-25-2001, 08:19 PM

I prefer to believe what is empirically, personally, and scientifically correct.....rather than just what I want....oh how much I want it to be true that I can change the shape of my muscles....

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LatinoHeat · 08-25-2001, 08:26 PM

I feel ya, TSB. You sound like ya know quite a bit, I also have read that you cannot change the shape of a muscle beyond genetics. But you would agree with me that there are well known trainers in bodybuilding that say you can, would you not?

TheSupremeBeing · 08-26-2001, 08:44 AM

As far as muscle shaping goes there aren't many....as far as emphasizing different heads of muscles there are a few. And guess what? I AGREE! Yes, you can emphasize different heads of muscles (in terms of greater shortening of said fibers, but this does not mean more force will be exerted with these fibers, so I don't think it matters, but that;s their point of view), but you cannot isolate (due to how they are innervated - think "wired") them and the emphasis of one head over another isn't significant enough to cause dispropriotate growth. note my before/after picture example....

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[Edited 1 time by TheSupremeBeing on 08-26-2001 at 07:44 PM]

Mesofreaky · 08-26-2001, 05:23 PM

TSB just backed off of one of his long held opinions. WOW. But now he has lost all credibility for doing so, how can I take advice from someone who might give me different advice on different days.

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TheSupremeBeing · 08-26-2001, 05:40 PM

??

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**Prince** · 08-26-2001, 05:50 PM

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08-23-2001, 11:12 AM	#1
walter Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 63	decline.....bench did 225*20 and 340 easy
walter Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 63

08-23-2001, 07:25 PM	#4
walter Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 63	did 225 20 times because I was trying to beat a record which I did. Iclines I can do 255 for 5, and regular bench 315 for 2, 275 for 7, almost eight and 340 easy money
walter Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 63

08-24-2001, 09:33 AM	#14
walter Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 63	i can't believe but notice some jealousy on this board
walter Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 63

08-24-2001, 07:23 PM	#17
Pemburu Person Jungle Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: South of the Border Posts: 190	I have to confess...I did them also. I did BB declines. It's a little intimidating to do with no spotter. I hate getting close to failure and having to put it back on the rack above my forehead. I then went to dumbbell inclines and increase the incline until I was doing a shoulder workout. That way I felt better about skipping inclines, because I didn't. Still waiting and watching for the drooping pecs. ------------------ On the Down Hill <FONT COLOR="#000002" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[Edited 1 time by Pemburu on 08-24-2001 at 09:25 PM]</font>

08-26-2001, 08:44 AM	#27
TheSupremeBeing Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chillin' in mah cribb, yo. Posts: 598	As far as muscle shaping goes there aren't many....as far as emphasizing different heads of muscles there are a few. And guess what? I AGREE! Yes, you can emphasize different heads of muscles (in terms of greater shortening of said fibers, but this does not mean more force will be exerted with these fibers, so I don't think it matters, but that;s their point of view), but you cannot isolate (due to how they are innervated - think "wired") them and the emphasis of one head over another isn't significant enough to cause dispropriotate growth. note my before/after picture example.... ------------------ Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers. <FONT COLOR="#000002" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">[Edited 1 time by TheSupremeBeing on 08-26-2001 at 07:44 PM]</font>

08-23-2001, 12:02 PM	#2
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,520 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	why would you do a set of 20? warm-up? ------------------ Just because the majority believes it, does not make it true!

08-23-2001, 06:58 PM	#3
LatinoHeat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA, USA Posts: 22	Ay, Walt, ya need to lay off the declines, unless you want droopy pecs. Ya need to work the upper pecs! What do ya do on the incline bench?

08-24-2001, 05:14 AM	#7
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	I sprinted up and down a hill for an hour yesterday. ------------------ Behind every great man is his BUTT My FitPit

08-24-2001, 05:28 AM	#11
Pemburu Person Jungle Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: South of the Border Posts: 190	IAB, I'm still using my Diamondback Apex I got back in '90. Lived in Alaska then and did a lot of riding around Kodiak Island. Understand about the puking part. One ride I used to do was 28 min up hill, half the time on the "granny" sprocket. It was a 3 min. ride back down. I guess I should thank God I'm still alive after those rides. Most of the time coming back down you were vibrating and bouncing so much you really couldn't see what you were doing. Have a great time and enjoy. ------------------ On the Down Hill

08-24-2001, 05:40 AM	#12
TheSupremeBeing Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chillin' in mah cribb, yo. Posts: 598	LOL at declines giving droopy pecs and "easy money"... ------------------ Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.

08-24-2001, 08:57 AM	#13
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	We had a new guy try out for our grappling classes yesterday. He spent a half hour afterwards puking in the sink ------------------ Behind every great man is his BUTT My FitPit

08-24-2001, 06:10 PM	#16
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,520 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	I keep hearing everyone raving over declines, soooo...it was chest day today, and guess what I decided to do? Yup, declines. ------------------ Just because the majority believes it, does not make it true!

08-25-2001, 08:46 AM	#19
Mace Hungry. Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rochester, NY USA Posts: 66	Hey, some people like droopy pecks... ------------------ Never get pulled over with a baggie of whey protein on the passenger seat...

08-25-2001, 05:54 PM	#21
LatinoHeat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA, USA Posts: 22	Walt, if you want to decline, then decline. This is for Pemburu and TheSupremeBeing: declines work the lower pecs, inclines the upper. In my humble opinion, filling in the upper pecs leads to a more impressive looking chest. Therefore, now follow me gentlemen, if ya have more lower chest mass then upper, ya get droopy pecs. Get it?

08-25-2001, 06:13 PM	#22
Pemburu Person Jungle Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: South of the Border Posts: 190	Sorry Prince, you don't have to wait till 50 to get them. Those Droopy things that is. Latinheat, I never did declines until recently and .....I'm ashamed to say it....but...I think I've already got them.(DPs) There I said it. I've confessed the deep dark secret. Therefore IMHO, I believe it's more of a genetic thing, not a decline thing. Please don't get Mr. TSB on speed here about hitting the chest from all the angles, what will build the upper, lower, this fiber, that fiber, incline this, decline that.....please have mercy on us all and stop while there's still some bandwidth on the web. ------------------ On the Down Hill

08-25-2001, 07:21 PM	#23
TheSupremeBeing Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chillin' in mah cribb, yo. Posts: 598	Yeah, I don't feel like going through this again. Suffice to say that Latino is 100% wrong and you won't get "droopy" pecs from doing decline presses and using different angles on a bench does not target different areas of the chest. In actuality your "upper" chest will grow more from declines than inclines. I just get amused now....believe what ya want. ------------------ Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.

08-25-2001, 07:56 PM	#24
LatinoHeat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA, USA Posts: 22	Nuff said, TSB. Believe what ya want-

08-25-2001, 08:19 PM	#25
TheSupremeBeing Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chillin' in mah cribb, yo. Posts: 598	I prefer to believe what is empirically, personally, and scientifically correct.....rather than just what I want....oh how much I want it to be true that I can change the shape of my muscles.... ------------------ Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.

08-25-2001, 08:26 PM	#26
LatinoHeat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA, USA Posts: 22	I feel ya, TSB. You sound like ya know quite a bit, I also have read that you cannot change the shape of a muscle beyond genetics. But you would agree with me that there are well known trainers in bodybuilding that say you can, would you not?

08-26-2001, 05:23 PM	#28
Mesofreaky Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: lake butler, fl, US Posts: 20	TSB just backed off of one of his long held opinions. WOW. But now he has lost all credibility for doing so, how can I take advice from someone who might give me different advice on different days. ------------------ freaky people do freaky things to stay freaky

08-26-2001, 05:40 PM	#29
TheSupremeBeing Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chillin' in mah cribb, yo. Posts: 598	?? ------------------ Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.

08-26-2001, 05:50 PM	#30
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,520 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	Quote: