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    Is it possible to...

    Lose fat and gain muscle simutaneously without roids? I know this is a stupid n00b question that I should know by now after posting 2932838 posts, but I'm retarded. I thought it was possible under optimum circumstances?
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    Yes. Although, it becomes increasingly difficult the more advanced you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt
    Yes. Although, it becomes increasingly difficult the more advanced you get.

    Thanks for the input.


    Also looking for a more technical answer too though..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl
    Thanks for the input.


    Also looking for a more technical answer too though..
    You mean how do you do it? It depends on the person. What are you stats and body fat?

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    Okay, I have the same question so I will post here and you can tell me how dumb I am for trying to build muscle when I have so much fat to loose. My routine is pretty basic, but I do not think I am advanced enough to have to mix it up too much since I am still getting a really good burn.

    6' 3" 255lbs 26% BF

    Currently:
    Cardio 3x per week 30 minutes (bike or orbital jogger)
    Lifting 2x per week for 1 - 1.5hr

    Routine - Upper body:
    Bench 4 sets 10, 8 , 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Incline Bench (same)
    Wide Bench (same)
    Dumbbell Press 4 sets of 8, mixed with dumbbell curl during rest
    Triceps pulldown 4 sets 10, 8 , 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Bent over dumbbell row (whatever I have left)

    Routine - Lower body:
    Squat 4 sets 10, 8 , 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Leg Press (same)
    Dumbbell Lunges (4x 8 with stable weight)
    Leg lifts 4 sets 10, 8, 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Leg curls (same)
    Calf raises 4 sets of 12

    Diet:
    Breakfast - Prot. Shake (using 2 scoops, 300 cal)
    Snack - fruit
    Lunch - Chicken or fish and veggies (some starchy vegis)
    Snack - fruit
    Dinner - More meat and mixed veggies or prot shake

    Bench 1RM ~290lbs

    Splach

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    Quote Originally Posted by splach
    Okay, I have the same question so I will post here and you can tell me how dumb I am for trying to build muscle when I have so much fat to loose. My routine is pretty basic, but I do not think I am advanced enough to have to mix it up too much since I am still getting a really good burn.

    6' 3" 255lbs 26% BF

    Currently:
    Cardio 3x per week 30 minutes (bike or orbital jogger)
    Lifting 2x per week for 1 - 1.5hr

    Routine - Upper body:
    Bench 4 sets 10, 8 , 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Incline Bench (same)
    Wide Bench (same)
    Dumbbell Press 4 sets of 8, mixed with dumbbell curl during rest
    Triceps pulldown 4 sets 10, 8 , 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Bent over dumbbell row (whatever I have left)

    Routine - Lower body:
    Squat 4 sets 10, 8 , 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Leg Press (same)
    Dumbbell Lunges (4x 8 with stable weight)
    Leg lifts 4 sets 10, 8, 6, to fail with increasing weight
    Leg curls (same)
    Calf raises 4 sets of 12

    Diet:
    Breakfast - Prot. Shake (using 2 scoops, 300 cal)
    Snack - fruit
    Lunch - Chicken or fish and veggies (some starchy vegis)
    Snack - fruit
    Dinner - More meat and mixed veggies or prot shake

    Bench 1RM ~290lbs

    Splach

    Woah. You are trying to gain muscle on that diet? What are your cals like 2000?

    You need protein for both snacks, and you need a carb for breakfast, as well as the shake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splach
    Diet:
    Breakfast - Prot. Shake (using 2 scoops, 300 cal)
    Snack - fruit
    Lunch - Chicken or fish and veggies (some starchy vegis)
    Snack - fruit
    Dinner - More meat and mixed veggies or prot shake

    Bench 1RM ~290lbs

    Splach
    That is a really shitty diet


    you need 6 meals a day..with a calorie breakdown something like this 400 cal per meal.....40 prot...30 carb...14 fat....
    every meal.
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    Heh... Thanks for validating that. The title of the thread was "Is it possible" (not my thread, just the one I stole). The diet is to try and drop 40 lbs of fat, the workouts right now are to try to keep from cannibalizing the muscle I have. Based on your answers I am going to go with the conventional wisdom of "No" you can't do it, since there is no way I am going to drop 40 lbs eating 2500 - 3000 calories a day. Maybe I should up the cardio and reduce the lifting until I get closer to my goal weight.

    Oh, and yeah, I do realize this is Iron Mag, not Morbidly Obese mag. :P

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