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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    I did 505 for 3 clean reps at 257 three years ago......was doing 405 for sets of 12 so I wasnt even conditioned for a single or tripple lift......If I can get back to that and then do 5-3 rep sets for a while I think I could easily hit 550......but age might f-with that?????

    And I was 100% not natural at the time......I doubt that the non tested lifts at 40+ are any higher.......none that I have seen anyway.
    So basically you are fucked?
    No gear + older = much weaker eh?

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    I have a video of a really skinny guy in a suit doing a sumo with 500 and he can barely grab the bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts
    So basically you are fucked?
    No gear + older = much weaker eh?
    Did it at 35 so 40 aint that much older.
    And those records are all drug records.....there is no such thing as natural.....only a stupid kid would think that.
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    The only thing I may stand a chance in would be a deadlift meet when I'm one of the older guys in the class. Right now I can do 405x2 if I remember correctly, which, according to most charts, puts me at about 420 for a max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    Mendy did 715 Raw on the bench a few months ago......that is the world record
    i just went to his site. his record is 875.32 lbs bench
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    Starting Weight:248....CurrentWeight=196..GoalWeight=8%bf
    Stats:........................... Goals:
    (April 1).........................(by Oct 1)
    Bench: 220ish..................Bench:400x1
    Leg Press: 880 x 5 ish.......Leg Press:1000
    Mil Press:150 ish x4 ish......Mil Press:250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Hulk
    i just went to his site. his record is 875.32 lbs bench
    That is not Raw.............and I believe he did 1005 shirted
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    That is not Raw.............and I believe he did 1005 shirted
    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    That is not Raw.............and I believe he did 1005 shirted

    I know that Gene Rychlak did 1005 shirted not too long ago, but I didn't know that Scott Mendelson tied him .

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordfish
    I know that Gene Rychlak did 1005 shirted not too long ago, but I didn't know that Scott Mendelson tied him .

    Mudge said that also......I dont know if its a tie or if one man bested ther other ......but their both are fucking strong as hell.

    I'm not sure but I believe Gene is in the weight class above Mende....so technically a tie would go to the lighter man
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    yep......mende is 320...so 60lbs lighter
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    60 lbs lighter? That is a lot of weight. But I definetely agree, both are strong as hell.

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    Mendy did 1005x2 shirted in the gym some time ago, but yeah in competition I never heard that he tied it. I haven't been following PL lately though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    well, how do you stand up?


    this also a "drug free" federation (whatever that means anymore. I know there are some super heavies that are most certainly not drug free lifting in this fed.).

    You may want to take a look at IPF or IPA although you better get used to wearing a bench shirt and triple ply steel squat suit if you want to compete with those animals (not wanting to start a debate but if kind of takes the sport out of it IMO).
    P do you know what federation does Raw bench but is not drug tested...........I just cant stomach the idea of cheating, even though most or all of the top lifters do...
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    So let me get this straight, then (sorry to dig up an old thread) But a guy like me, not drugs, no "bench shirt" or "squat suit" really has not hope of competing? I have no desire to use suits or shirts, i agree with those who say it makes it all so unnatural and screwy. whatever. is there really any "natural" strength competition anymore? one where one truyly CANNOT be on drugs of any sort? this is what i am looking for. this is driving me nuts. I want to compete against those who are also not geared up, whether it be hormonally or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by * Legion *
    So let me get this straight, then (sorry to dig up an old thread) But a guy like me, not drugs, no "bench shirt" or "squat suit" really has not hope of competing? I have no desire to use suits or shirts, i agree with those who say it makes it all so unnatural and screwy. whatever. is there really any "natural" strength competition anymore? one where one truyly CANNOT be on drugs of any sort? this is what i am looking for. this is driving me nuts. I want to compete against those who are also not geared up, whether it be hormonally or otherwise.
    You can find a federation that doesn't use suits, but finding one were people don't use drugs is not really possible. I will probably have to compete againest kids on gear...

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    I have learned so much about anabolics on this forum, and can see why so many experienced members get frustrated with stupid questions about steroids and such. Man, two years ago, when i first started powerlifting/strength training, I was under the impression that steroids are really only meant to be for mass building, and NOT for strength increase (primarily. i thought that strenght increase was secondary to increased hypertrophy.) after talking with P funk, even the oly weightlifters are geared up. Man, I hang my head sometimes, when i look at these guys... i gut it out and do what i can without that stuff, but to watch some of these guys getting so big and so strong, one can understand why I would be tempted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by * Legion *
    So let me get this straight, then (sorry to dig up an old thread) But a guy like me, not drugs, no "bench shirt" or "squat suit" really has not hope of competing? I have no desire to use suits or shirts, i agree with those who say it makes it all so unnatural and screwy. whatever. is there really any "natural" strength competition anymore? one where one truyly CANNOT be on drugs of any sort? this is what i am looking for. this is driving me nuts. I want to compete against those who are also not geared up, whether it be hormonally or otherwise.
    You can find some natural compatitions with no gear................but in reality there is no such thing..
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    Quote Originally Posted by * Legion *
    I have learned so much about anabolics on this forum, and can see why so many experienced members get frustrated with stupid questions about steroids and such. Man, two years ago, when i first started powerlifting/strength training, I was under the impression that steroids are really only meant to be for mass building, and NOT for strength increase (primarily. i thought that strenght increase was secondary to increased hypertrophy.) after talking with P funk, even the oly weightlifters are geared up. Man, I hang my head sometimes, when i look at these guys... i gut it out and do what i can without that stuff, but to watch some of these guys getting so big and so strong, one can understand why I would be tempted.
    haloteston will give you 0 size or weight gain but will make you strong as hell....................steroids can do all kinds of things.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    Did it at 35 so 40 aint that much older.
    And those records are all drug records.....there is no such thing as natural.....only a stupid kid would think that.
    That's why I said, if you were natural, then you would be screwed....
    Thanks for jumping to conclusions, just to insult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by * Legion *
    I have learned so much about anabolics on this forum, and can see why so many experienced members get frustrated with stupid questions about steroids and such. Man, two years ago, when i first started powerlifting/strength training, I was under the impression that steroids are really only meant to be for mass building, and NOT for strength increase (primarily. i thought that strenght increase was secondary to increased hypertrophy.) after talking with P funk, even the oly weightlifters are geared up. Man, I hang my head sometimes, when i look at these guys... i gut it out and do what i can without that stuff, but to watch some of these guys getting so big and so strong, one can understand why I would be tempted.
    I understand man, but I will never use them.
    Besides, I have some gyno naturally, it would be suicide going on gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts
    That's why I said, if you were natural, then you would be screwed....
    Thanks for jumping to conclusions, just to insult.
    nope the drug records are almost the same................you really need to wake up
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    Quote Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt
    but finding one were people don't use drugs is not really possible.
    Dude, there are tested feds. If you need help let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by * Legion *
    is there really any "natural" strength competition anymore? one where one truyly CANNOT be on drugs of any sort?
    People cheat in all aspects of life man, there is a guy (shirted) benching just under 900 tested. Is he really natural? Heck if I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    Dude, there are tested feds. If you need help let me know.
    What I mean is, in the tested feds there are still a lot of people that use steroids.

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    What I don't get is why the super-heavies ( 242 + ) are all weaker then the 185-240 classes. I can match most of those lifts now and I'm in the 1st half of being 16.

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