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Is my hard work doin more harm then good?


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Old 10-08-2005, 08:00 PM   #1
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Is my hard work doin more harm then good?

Here's my sched.. monday chest.. I do 4sets between 8-4 reps, I do about 6 exercises,I move fairly quickly around the gym so im still outta there in 50 mins.... Tues Back... Wednesday legs...ThursdayBi's Tri's... Friday shoulders..All my days at the gym are 4 sets 8-4 reps except on legs.. an usually 6 exercises per body part.. Should I be doin exercises taking my time or whats ur opinion on my 6 exercises per body part? toomuch? I have tried doin less exercises but i jus dont feel the burn that day or the next like i do
when i do more.
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cut the sets in half/or the exercises
Dont workout more than 4 days a week
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:33 PM   #3
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Whys that? I know if i do that i wont feel no pain the next day.. which i hate, cuz it feels like i wasted my time.
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:36 PM   #4
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24 sets per muscle and traing 6 days a week is insane.

How you feel the next day dosent mean shit.
To grow you need to: 1 Eat 2. Train smart 3. sleep 4. rest 5. learn from your mistakes
10-12 sets per muscle is more than enough
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:43 PM   #5
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Anyone agree with this guy?? what happend to the expression "no pain no gain"
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:45 PM   #6
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Anyone agree with this guy?? what happend to the expression "no pain no gain"
Hell then do 100 sets and train every day.
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:48 PM   #7
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Anyone agree with this guy?? what happend to the expression "no pain no gain"
I agree with him. No pain no gain during training.



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u agree with him but ur the one who jus said "no pain no gain during training"
he was jus sayin that what u feel the next day doesnt mean shit
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u agree with him but ur the one who jus said "no pain no gain during training"
he was jus sayin that what u feel the next day doesnt mean shit
No, during training you need to push yourself. After that is doesn't matter.



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Old 10-08-2005, 09:29 PM   #10
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Feeling the burn the next day doesn't mean much of anything. However, when I'm doing HIT workouts and I do 1 working set per body part in a workout I still get sore the next day.

You are certainly doing too much in my opinion. You can't possibly be using a decent level of intensity with that much volume. Just push yourself harder on each working set and do less of them.

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Foreman and I may disagree on poems, but we don't usually disagree with training thoughts. He is 100% right, nutrition and rest is just as important as training itself, and you must train intensely. 10-12 sets should be plenty, I only perform about 8 working sets for the big muscle groups now, and I'm seeing better results.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:31 PM   #12
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I'm surprised you can do 24 sets on the same muscle in only 50 minutes. Are you working at high enough intensity? Either way, 24 sets is definately far too many for one muscle. I usually do 3 (sometimes 4) exercises per muscle, 2-3 sets each exercise. The exceptions are leg and back muscles.

Foreman hit the nail on the head when he said this: "To grow you need to: 1 Eat 2. Train smart 3. sleep 4. rest 5. learn from your mistakes." I would also add 6. Eat smart, in addition to just eating more.
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Anyone agree with this guy?? what happend to the expression "no pain no gain"
it's a very outdated expresssion, science has proven otherwise...

if you train at a high intensity (high load) to failure on a regular basis training 5 days in a row you won't see much in the way of strength or size for long

more isn't always better...quality beats quantity any day of the week in this sport



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I used to work out close to intensity like you do. I hit a plateau on everything. I cut my reps and sets down but do more weight, and now I have passed all of my plateaus and continue to grow muscle. I credit this with more rest between workouts. I don't get sore unless I change my exercises for each group (which I do every 3 weeks).
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24 sets per muscle and traing 6 days a week is insane.

How you feel the next day dosent mean shit.
To grow you need to: 1 Eat 2. Train smart 3. sleep 4. rest 5. learn from your mistakes
10-12 sets per muscle is more than enough
nice post.

that is all.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:33 AM   #16
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what happend to the expression "no pain no gain"
I don't know about that one, but have you heard of "overtraining" before?
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