Forced Reps vs. Reps to Failure

LatinoHeat · 09-02-2001, 12:11 PM

Training to failure means you can no longer lift a weight on your own in good form, forced reps means a spotter assists you in performing reps after you've failed. So, on the bench press, after six reps you can no longer push the weight off your chest, your muscles haved failed, but your buddy grabs the bar and pulls on it, assisting you in the lift, a forced rep.

cytrix · 09-02-2001, 12:15 PM

yes, there is. training to failure means doing reps until you can't do any more. forced reps are training PAST failure, you train to failure first (do as many as you can by yourself), and then have someone assist you to get out some more.
there are other methods of training past failure, such as drop-sets (reducing the weight and continue doing reps with a lighter weight), or partials (after you can't do any more full reps, you keep doing partials in the strongest part of the movement).

The Rose · 09-02-2001, 02:12 PM

Thanks!

Maki Riddington · 09-02-2001, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cytrix:

there are other methods of training past failure, such as drop-sets (reducing the weight and continue doing reps with a lighter weight),

*** Using this method wouldn't take you past failure. How can one train past faliure with a lighter weight? If the muscle has failed to contract concentrically then a lighter weight would be a form of a sub maximal lift.
It would be better suited towards improving ones endurance.

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cytrix · 09-02-2001, 05:19 PM

assisted reps would also be a submaximal effort, if someone helps you with the lift for a few reps (=forced reps) means you are lifting less weight than you did before by yourself, don't you agree? if i lift 100lbs to failure and have someone assist me, so the weight i lift is maybe 95lbs, that would be the same as taking 5lbs off the bar.

Maki Riddington · 09-02-2001, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cytrix:
assisted reps would also be a submaximal effort,

*** I don't know what you're quite getting at but I do agree with the above.

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The Rose · 09-02-2001, 11:37 PM

Is there a difference between forced reps and performing reps to failure?

Charger · 09-03-2001, 04:49 AM

My 2 cents here, just go to failure. Just make sure you work out with enough intensity and really push it to failure, dig deep!!!!

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Maki Riddington · 09-03-2001, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Charger:
My 2 cents here, just go to failure. Just make sure you work out with enough intensity and really push it to failure, dig deep!!!!

*** Sounds good.

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ALBOB · 09-04-2001, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cytrix:
assisted reps would also be a submaximal effort,

I agree with everything you said except that, it's still maximal "effort" just with submaximal "weight". I'm pretty sure that's what you meant, right?

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09-02-2001, 12:11 PM	#1
LatinoHeat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA, USA Posts: 22	Training to failure means you can no longer lift a weight on your own in good form, forced reps means a spotter assists you in performing reps after you've failed. So, on the bench press, after six reps you can no longer push the weight off your chest, your muscles haved failed, but your buddy grabs the bar and pulls on it, assisting you in the lift, a forced rep.

09-02-2001, 12:15 PM	#2
cytrix Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: chicago, il , usa Posts: 287	yes, there is. training to failure means doing reps until you can't do any more. forced reps are training PAST failure, you train to failure first (do as many as you can by yourself), and then have someone assist you to get out some more. there are other methods of training past failure, such as drop-sets (reducing the weight and continue doing reps with a lighter weight), or partials (after you can't do any more full reps, you keep doing partials in the strongest part of the movement).

09-02-2001, 02:12 PM	#3
The Rose Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 188	Thanks!

09-02-2001, 05:19 PM	#5
cytrix Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: chicago, il , usa Posts: 287	assisted reps would also be a submaximal effort, if someone helps you with the lift for a few reps (=forced reps) means you are lifting less weight than you did before by yourself, don't you agree? if i lift 100lbs to failure and have someone assist me, so the weight i lift is maybe 95lbs, that would be the same as taking 5lbs off the bar.

09-03-2001, 04:49 AM	#8
Charger Pump Junky Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Iowa Posts: 465	My 2 cents here, just go to failure. Just make sure you work out with enough intensity and really push it to failure, dig deep!!!! ------------------ Can't never did nothin,(Dedicated to my father)