Thread: mass....

no crap

It's really not that complicated. If you aren't gaining weight at that caloric intake, then increase your intake by 5%. If you still don't gain weight, increase by 5%. Repeat this process until weight gain occurs. I have to eat over 3K calories per day just to maintain my weight.

Also, you shouldn't be hitting failure on every single working set if you use moderate-high volume training routines. That is, unless it is for only a week or two and it is followed by a deloading period. Overtraining will eventually result because that is a lot of stress on your central nervous system. There is no loading pattern that is necessarily optimal. There is a lot of room to play around.

cow is right...

personally you seem lost and misguided as i was at 17, thats why didn't take lifting serious till i was 21 and i'm 23 now...if i was able to lift seriously then god i'd be pro at somethig lol even thumb wrestling!!!

Now here is how I would do it again if i was 17...

First off i'd start powerlifting as I'm doing now...this builds a great base to work your motor units, increase limit strength, and work that CNS...

1. Full body routine focusing each day to at least 1 of the 3 main lifts (3 days/week)
2. STart off with higher reps for working sets (8-12) then pyramid down every few weeks to lower reps/higher weight
3. Eat food with high calories/protein and LOW sugar/carbs, only eat HIGH sugar/carbs after your workout
4. Try to get as many calories, stretch your stomach...eat 3000 calories everyday, but quality calories...maybe 3500, you are like me, an ectomorph with potential for mesomorph who burns a lot of calories ...
5. Cut cardio out for a while till you gain 25lbs then do it maybe 1-2x a week...

well i'm goin to stay w/the same routine and stuff but i'm goin to drop some weight and see how it goes

Originally Posted by kenwood

well i'm goin to stay w/the same routine and stuff but i'm goin to drop some weight and see how it goes

I don't get it. You want mass and yet your going to drop weight. Kenwood you need to pick one and stay with it. Your sign says your goal is 170 lbs and right now you weigh 150 lbs. I would say put on some size and then cut it off. Move your calories up like Cow said an d get your weight up to 170 lbs. Then you can cut the fat off


PT

forget that old shitty idea of bulking then cutting...just gain gradually...why bulk, who the fuck needs excess fat...don't follow ronnie and jay...they are mass gh/roid monsters....disstended stomachs and unproportioned muscles...check out dexter jackson...or johnnie o jackson...people who basically maintain throughout the year....eat healthy all the time, eat a lot, but healthy...be smart