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    How fast does LBM/fat diminish?

    Before the summer i was weight training with a decent diet floating somewhere around 155-158 lbs. I got a job framing houses and i stopped weight training and eating properly. I ate mcdonalds or some equally shitty meal every day for lunch and ate one healthy meal for dinner when i got home. I kept this job for about four months and at the end of it i weighed in at around 135 lbs . The first thing almost every person who i havent seen since before the summer on campus says, "Wow you have lost a ton of weight" .

    So my question to you is, how much of the weight that i lost was LBM and how much was fat? Or in general, how fast does LBM disappear when "mistreated" like i did during the summer?

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    At 135 pounds you may have lost all of your training LBM but I dont know how short you are. If you gained fat and are only 135 pounds, seriously I can't imagine you are looking too jacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    At 135 pounds you may have lost all of your training LBM but I dont know how short you are. If you gained fat and are only 135 pounds, seriously I can't imagine you are looking too jacked.

    Dont you measure yourself?
    Im 5'8". Guess i shoulda told you that .

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    My brother is 5'7" and maintains 155 or heavier with no training at all and he looks very average currently. If you get yourself back to training I'm sure you will do well for the first few months, fix up the diet and get back to the gym, shouldn't need anything more than that.
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    I feel your pain, man. Two summers ago I worked manual labor without eating or drinking much at all. 8-10 hour days. Some days I would even skip breakfast if I was running late, and lunch, if I even ate any, was fast food. Dinner would be a small meal, whatever was around the house, then I would go to bed. Dropped about 30 pounds. I'm still 15-20 pounds from getting back to my old weight, since I didn't take great care of myself last summer either (work, partying, terrible eating habits).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentDog
    I feel your pain, man. Two summers ago I worked manual labor without eating or drinking much at all. 8-10 hour days. Some days I would even skip breakfast if I was running late, and lunch, if I even ate any, was fast food. Dinner would be a small meal, whatever was around the house, then I would go to bed. Dropped about 30 pounds. I'm still 15-20 pounds from getting back to my old weight, since I didn't take great care of myself last summer either (work, partying, terrible eating habits).
    how long you been back at 'er?

    Edit: Wait i just read that again. Two summers ago? And youre still down 15-20lbs? Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    My brother is 5'7" and maintains 155 or heavier with no training at all and he looks very average currently. If you get yourself back to training I'm sure you will do well for the first few months, fix up the diet and get back to the gym, shouldn't need anything more than that.
    Took me so damn long to get to 155ish, damn metabolism.... Oh well. My diet is even better now than it was last time so hopefully that works in my favour.

    I've got quite a small frame.... So 155 for me is pretty good. ive got 6.5" wrists and 29" (measured, not jean size ) waist to give you an idea.

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    There is no way to say how much muscle mass you lost. That is totally dependant on genetics and more specifics on what you ate throughout the summer.

    Don't worry about it and just get back on track. Muscle memory should help you get back to where you were faster than the first time you got there, especially if your diet is looking better this time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
    There is no way to say how much muscle mass you lost. That is totally dependant on genetics and more specifics on what you ate throughout the summer.

    Don't worry about it and just get back on track. Muscle memory should help you get back to where you were faster than the first time you got there, especially if your diet is looking better this time around.
    But isnt muscle memory only related to strength, not size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST240
    how long you been back at 'er?

    Edit: Wait i just read that again. Two summers ago? And youre still down 15-20lbs? Man.
    Yup, two summers ago. However, I have only bulked once since, and it was during last summer. I considered it a rather unsuccessful bulk since I worked a lot, partied hard, missed workouts, and ate poorly (barbeque, fast food, etc.). I also did not start bulking as soon as that summer (two summers ago) was over. During the fall, I partied heavily again (football season) and gained a lot of weight. I started cutting it off March-2005, and ended my cut when school ended, then began my summer bulk. So basically, I have only put a couple good months of bulk time in. I have spent most time cutting (I just got done cutting again). I like staying lean. I also hadn't been too anxious to gain weight lately since girls have always liked my look. Not sure what it is, I think I have the height thing going for me or something.

    I just started bulking again a couple days ago and plan to be up 15 pounds (lean mass) in 3-4 months. It's definately doable, so don't be discouraged. Work hard!

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    bulking for me = adding lbm and maybe only going up 1 or 2 percent in body fat. i dont really gain fat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST240
    But isnt muscle memory only related to strength, not size?
    I suppose I would agree that it is more related to strength than size, but not that it doesn't work at all for size. For example, if you stop training for a while and then begin deadlifting again. You will gain back the strength you once had quite quickly due to muscle memory, which will increase the efficiency of your CNS to the point at which you were before much more quickly than you got there in the first place. However, I would think that this will also apply to mass - you can get back to the point at which you were before much more quickly than you got there the first time. As for gaining additional mass and strength, it won't make any difference as far as I know - it can only help you get to your previous point of physical fitness.
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    Sounds like it's time to hit the gym again. Have your B/F checked this time and keep track of it. I don't know of a better way to keep track of LBM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
    Sounds like it's time to hit the gym again. Have your B/F checked this time and keep track of it. I don't know of a better way to keep track of LBM
    are any of the online body fat calculators accurate? or are calipers the best way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST240
    are any of the online body fat calculators accurate? or are calipers the best way?
    Calipers are probably bound to be more accurate (assuming you use them correctly). However, you can use the online calculators to tell whether you're losing fat. For example, if it told you that you had 50% BF, it may be off by 2% or 10% depending on where you store your fat. However, if, over time, that steadily decreases to, say, 40%, that's a good indication that you've lost a significant amount of your fat, even if your body fat isn't close to 40%. Hopefully you know what I'm getting at and I explained that correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST240
    Im 5'8". Guess i shoulda told you that .
    im 5'5 i was 150lbs at 13% bf before i even touched a weight

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