basketball try-outs

kenwood · 10-27-2005, 10:43 PM

basketball try-outs (tee outs lol from the longest yard) are comming up at school and i was wondering would it be a good idea to try out? (my uncles the coach) would it be a great source of cardio? each practice is usually around 2hr long....would you try out if you were me? and hes also looking for a manager to help him

**CowPimp** · 10-27-2005, 11:25 PM

Basketball is a great cardio workout. It is going to stress both your anaerobic and aerobic energy systems and improve their efficiency.

Do you enjoy playing basketball? If so, then tryout...

kenwood · 10-27-2005, 11:58 PM

yeah i like basketball...but its the games that get me nervous for some reason lol
shit i could shoot 3 throws all day long

themamasan · 10-28-2005, 02:18 AM

The best cardiovascular shape I have ever been in was during high school. I played basketball everyday (sometimes for 5 hours a day) and I bet didn't have an ounce of fat on me. If you want to be in shape, by all means go for it.

boilermaker · 10-28-2005, 04:25 AM

Develop your skills with your off hand. The hardest person to defend is one that can go equally left or right. If they can only go one way (I'd estimate 85% of people who pick up a basketball) they are cake to defend. Just overplay the strong side. They simply aren't strong enough to go the other way and can't create a shot because you are right in their face. If you overplay the strong side and still get beat, think about other fall sports. IE cross country, golf or soccer.

yellowmoomba · 10-28-2005, 09:17 AM

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If you overplay the strong side and still get beat, think about other fall sports. IE cross country, golf or soccer.

Good advice

devildog88 · 10-28-2005, 09:25 AM

First of all try-outs are a bit misleading. If you are in a large school you first have to be good enough to make the team. Uncle or not, if your skills aren't up to par then I would be dissappointed if your uncle gave you a spot over someone who could hoop. Now providing you can make the team I would say yes, by all means go play. It is a great way to have fun and stay in shape.

boilermaker · 10-28-2005, 09:30 AM

My graduating class had 370 kids. I know all about being good enough to make the team and what not.

devildog88 · 10-28-2005, 10:21 AM

Boilmaker is right about your off hand. I have a 11 year old son who spends a lot of time at practice with me. I make him do 20 min. a day of two ball drills. He can handle two balls at a time doing drills that most high school athletes struggle with using one ball. It is very important if you want to be good!

devildog88 · 10-28-2005, 10:28 AM

Here is a great site for Basketball players, coaches.

http://www.bbhighway.com/

Squaggleboggin · 10-28-2005, 11:21 AM

All sorts of players are good in all sorts of sports. Since I'm usually (one of) the largest athlete(s) playing whatever we happen to be playing, I use my strengths. For example, when we play basketball (although it's very different from an actual league), I'm good at blocking shots and getting in the way of my opponents, and setting up picks for my teammates. The point is, find out what you're good at and make it better. That doesn't mean that you should stop practicing your weaknesses, but just realize that you don't have to be nervous because there's a good chance that you can somehow contribute to the team.

slider · 10-28-2005, 03:29 PM

I am an athletic coach and this is what i say If you like it try out. Especally in middle and high school have fun with it man practice don't burn out, hell enough time on the court with your buddies and you might get go to college for free. most important do what you love and love what you do. Never forget it is only high school, you don't get paid for it, have a contract, and your surrounded by your friends. So keep the fun up and Stress down don't let for lack of better words washed up athlete asshole adults live vicariously(that is spelled so wrong) through you cuz they aren't happy with themselves. Have fun playin ball its only a game

kenwood · 10-28-2005, 03:36 PM

what about asma or hower you spell it i have it and i run out of breath ...is their anything to build up loungs?(my spelling ain't perfect lol) but when i workout it seems i don't have asma(spelling again) i find i only have it when i run.

slider · 10-28-2005, 03:41 PM

Ok first off devildog if you read my original that I am sorry got a little worked up it was uncalled for and I dealt with it all wrong.

More constructive on the topic of your son and practice first off he's 11 don't ruin the sport for him by making every all crazy structured and no fun he is still in the 7th grade he's got his junior and senior year to impress scouts and get a free ride to college if that is what he wants to do next. You should have him practice in game settings I know you heart is in the right place making him dribble 2 balls at the same time but when in a game will he ever do that?? Never, you are wasting his and your time together. Yes laterality is very important but you need to be more constructive with it. you best learn some thing on the other side of your body immediatly after you learn it on one side of your body in the same practice time frame if learns to shoot with his left hand go's has a sandwich plays some games then comes back to it his brain has to make a whole new path to shoot with his right hand so basicaly has to learn it all over again....but if you teach him right immediatly after left it makes it into one motor pathway making it a. easier to learn cuz it is just tweaking minor details and b. more automatic in games cuz both action function on the same path.

so let say you 2 want him to dribble with both hands amaizingly then maybe set up a practice like this. play a game with him where the first 6 points are all right handed(shooting dribling passing the works) and the next 6 are left all left handed and back and forth through the time you play. This is now great on so many levels because you are not running into the ground what he already knows how to dribble. Also it is more fun he is not standing there in the drive way dribbling 2 balls thinking "this is lame I wanna play what the hell am i doin". Plus he gets to play and that is the reason he is practicning he wants to play better he isn't on the junior high basket ball drill team he is just on the basketball team(thats why they bitch about practice). He can also do this when playing with his friends in sparetime and the game now has a new dynamic making it more challenging.

Just remember when you are helping him get better most importantly make it as much like a game as possible. I wanna strangle volleyball coaches when they tell there kids to practice against a wall all ther doing is trainning there brain to bounce a ball of the wall.

Make it as FUN as possible and never force him he has an "asshole" coach for that your his dad listen to him and have fun with him thats your job. If you guys have that kind of relationship he'll come to you for practice instead of you making him. I learned 90% of my b-ball skills shootin hoops with my old man. He was to bizzy making me into Nolan Ryan to relize I really like playing B-ball better. By the way I am 25 hate base ball now and won't play.

It must always be FUN cuz even if you making 6 figures to play a game it is still just a game and fun is why we play games

slider · 10-28-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kenwood

what about asma or hower you spell it i have it and i run out of breath ...is their anything to build up loungs?(my spelling ain't perfect lol) but when i workout it seems i don't have asma(spelling again) i find i only have it when i run.

Start your load small and build on it if it isn't chronic asthma then you jsut have to start small and build on it and you can be just like everyone else. The thing to remeber with asthma unless you are having an atack and your breathing is completly resticted it mostly effect the total amount of v02 you can exspell. Meaning you have more V02 in your lungs than most, your cadio has to be stronger than other to be the same as others to level it out. The problem with trainning is you can't just go crazy like people with out cuz you or will die and that is bad so you have to work up your Cardio on slower progresion to avoid attacks. talk to your doctor he has tons of info. They get payed so much cuz they no so much more than what the flu looks like.

goal_500_bench · 10-28-2005, 07:11 PM

If you are serious about making the team then incorporate this into your daily routine:

http://home.no/slominski/Air%20Alert%20III.htm

Also I have the better basketball.better ball handling video if you want the link just let me know.

Play in as many pick-up games as you can with players above your skill level because you don't want to get injured playing with scrubs. Work hard and remember "perfect practice makes perfect"...not "practice makes perfect."

You should try to take 1,000-2,000 jump shots a day. Professionals do alot more but well your not one so...

goal_500_bench · 10-28-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by slider

I am an athletic coach and this is what i say If you like it try out. Especally in middle and high school have fun with it man practice don't burn out, hell enough time on the court with your buddies and you might get go to college for free. most important do what you love and love what you do. Never forget it is only high school, you don't get paid for it, have a contract, and your surrounded by your friends. So keep the fun up and Stress down don't let for lack of better words washed up athlete asshole adults live vicariously(that is spelled so wrong) through you cuz they aren't happy with themselves. Have fun playin ball its only a game

Yea the key is to have fun at what your doing but don't forget it's not JUST highschool it's your career and it starts now. If you plan on playing college ball then you really can't start being serious about it now. It really has to start in junior high even before that.

goal_500_bench · 10-28-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by boilermaker

My graduating class had 370 kids. I know all about being good enough to make the team and what not.

how so?? You had a small school. THe pickings were slim.

kenwood · 10-29-2005, 01:39 AM

thats B.S...you can't lift during basketball season? thats what the coach says so i say screw basketball then

**CowPimp** · 10-29-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kenwood

thats B.S...you can't lift during basketball season? thats what the coach says so i say screw basketball then

Odd. Most athletes utilize some form of resistance training to prepare themselves...

kenwood · 10-29-2005, 04:45 PM

he said lifting during season messes too much up? i'm still wondering why

Mithamo · 10-29-2005, 05:01 PM

Your coach knows what hes talking about. basketball skillz are largely dependent on muscle memory. nothing can throw of a shooting practice like a heavy shoulder or tricep workout right before. and doing defensive slides for an hour after leg day? forget about it.

most decent BBall coaches, especially ones that work with developing teens will make sure they get all round conditioning during practice. It may not be the time to stack on more muscle. but your added athleticism after a season of hard bball will be well worth it.

with all that said. Micheal Jordan hit the weights every single morning of his basketball career. so It can be done, but carefullly and systematically. Your coach is wise to keep that pandora's box closed.

**CowPimp** · 10-29-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithamo

Your coach knows what hes talking about. basketball skillz are largely dependent on muscle memory. nothing can throw of a shooting practice like a heavy shoulder or tricep workout right before. and doing defensive slides for an hour after leg day? forget about it.

most decent BBall coaches, especially ones that work with developing teens will make sure they get all round conditioning during practice. It may not be the time to stack on more muscle. but your added athleticism after a season of hard bball will be well worth it.

with all that said. Micheal Jordan hit the weights every single morning of his basketball career. so It can be done, but carefullly and systematically. Your coach is wise to keep that pandora's box closed.

I see where you're coming from. Strength is not really necessary in basketball, at least not the degree it is necessary in sports such as football or hockey.

boilermaker · 10-29-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by goal_500_bench

how so?? You had a small school. THe pickings were slim.

I'm not sure what you are asking here. Varsity basketball has 14 spots. I'm 5'-10", so I'm not a center or forward. That leaves guard, at 6 or 7 spots on the team. There are 370 kids in my class, and the other 3. That's about 750 boys if you figure 50/50 boys girl split. So roughly 1 out of each 100 boys get a guard spot on the team. I wouldn't call that slim pickings. Also, my high school is class AA, meaning it is in the top 12.5% enrollment in the state.

slider · 10-31-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by goal_500_bench

Yea the key is to have fun at what your doing but don't forget it's not JUST highschool it's your career and it starts now. If you plan on playing college ball then you really can't start being serious about it now. It really has to start in junior high even before that.

If you wanna be exact about I studied under Damon Burton who was the President of the aaasp.Most top level profesional athletes(90%) didn't play 7th and 8th grade year. you can only learn so much profesional athletesism is hardwired into your Genetic make up. IF you are good enough to play for a living then the only thing that can you slow you down is negative psychological stimualtion that will make you pull away instead of IN. the diff in the pro's and amms is pro's love to practice yeah it is hard and they get tired but in there head it is always the shit and geneticaly they are above the curve. So play have fun and if you can do it you will

slider · 10-31-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kenwood

thats B.S...you can't lift during basketball season? thats what the coach says so i say screw basketball then

In all honesty you are alot more likely to get a b-ball scholorship than a body building scholarship. and Free college thats the POOOOOOOOOOO.

kenwood · 10-31-2005, 05:58 PM

POOOOOOOOOOO.

?? what

10-27-2005, 10:43 PM	#1
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devildog88 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 795 Photos: 1	First of all try-outs are a bit misleading. If you are in a large school you first have to be good enough to make the team. Uncle or not, if your skills aren't up to par then I would be dissappointed if your uncle gave you a spot over someone who could hoop. Now providing you can make the team I would say yes, by all means go play. It is a great way to have fun and stay in shape.
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10-27-2005, 11:58 PM	#3
kenwood Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,878 Photos: 1	yeah i like basketball...but its the games that get me nervous for some reason lol shit i could shoot 3 throws all day long

10-28-2005, 02:18 AM	#4
themamasan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 456	The best cardiovascular shape I have ever been in was during high school. I played basketball everyday (sometimes for 5 hours a day) and I bet didn't have an ounce of fat on me. If you want to be in shape, by all means go for it.

10-28-2005, 10:21 AM	#9
devildog88 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 795 Photos: 1	Boilmaker is right about your off hand. I have a 11 year old son who spends a lot of time at practice with me. I make him do 20 min. a day of two ball drills. He can handle two balls at a time doing drills that most high school athletes struggle with using one ball. It is very important if you want to be good!
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10-28-2005, 10:28 AM	#10
devildog88 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 795 Photos: 1	Here is a great site for Basketball players, coaches. http://www.bbhighway.com/
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10-28-2005, 03:29 PM	#12
slider CRAPTASTIC!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 88 Photos: 1	I am an athletic coach and this is what i say If you like it try out. Especally in middle and high school have fun with it man practice don't burn out, hell enough time on the court with your buddies and you might get go to college for free. most important do what you love and love what you do. Never forget it is only high school, you don't get paid for it, have a contract, and your surrounded by your friends. So keep the fun up and Stress down don't let for lack of better words washed up athlete asshole adults live vicariously(that is spelled so wrong) through you cuz they aren't happy with themselves. Have fun playin ball its only a game Last edited by slider : 10-28-2005 at 03:55 PM.
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10-28-2005, 03:36 PM	#13
kenwood Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,878 Photos: 1	what about asma or hower you spell it i have it and i run out of breath ...is their anything to build up loungs?(my spelling ain't perfect lol) but when i workout it seems i don't have asma(spelling again) i find i only have it when i run.

10-28-2005, 03:41 PM	#14
slider CRAPTASTIC!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 88 Photos: 1	Ok first off devildog if you read my original that I am sorry got a little worked up it was uncalled for and I dealt with it all wrong. More constructive on the topic of your son and practice first off he's 11 don't ruin the sport for him by making every all crazy structured and no fun he is still in the 7th grade he's got his junior and senior year to impress scouts and get a free ride to college if that is what he wants to do next. You should have him practice in game settings I know you heart is in the right place making him dribble 2 balls at the same time but when in a game will he ever do that?? Never, you are wasting his and your time together. Yes laterality is very important but you need to be more constructive with it. you best learn some thing on the other side of your body immediatly after you learn it on one side of your body in the same practice time frame if learns to shoot with his left hand go's has a sandwich plays some games then comes back to it his brain has to make a whole new path to shoot with his right hand so basicaly has to learn it all over again....but if you teach him right immediatly after left it makes it into one motor pathway making it a. easier to learn cuz it is just tweaking minor details and b. more automatic in games cuz both action function on the same path. so let say you 2 want him to dribble with both hands amaizingly then maybe set up a practice like this. play a game with him where the first 6 points are all right handed(shooting dribling passing the works) and the next 6 are left all left handed and back and forth through the time you play. This is now great on so many levels because you are not running into the ground what he already knows how to dribble. Also it is more fun he is not standing there in the drive way dribbling 2 balls thinking "this is lame I wanna play what the hell am i doin". Plus he gets to play and that is the reason he is practicning he wants to play better he isn't on the junior high basket ball drill team he is just on the basketball team(thats why they bitch about practice). He can also do this when playing with his friends in sparetime and the game now has a new dynamic making it more challenging. Just remember when you are helping him get better most importantly make it as much like a game as possible. I wanna strangle volleyball coaches when they tell there kids to practice against a wall all ther doing is trainning there brain to bounce a ball of the wall. Make it as FUN as possible and never force him he has an "asshole" coach for that your his dad listen to him and have fun with him thats your job. If you guys have that kind of relationship he'll come to you for practice instead of you making him. I learned 90% of my b-ball skills shootin hoops with my old man. He was to bizzy making me into Nolan Ryan to relize I really like playing B-ball better. By the way I am 25 hate base ball now and won't play. It must always be FUN cuz even if you making 6 figures to play a game it is still just a game and fun is why we play games Last edited by slider : 10-28-2005 at 05:15 PM. Reason: my previous comments were uncalled for
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10-28-2005, 07:11 PM	#16
goal_500_bench Goal: Body of a Titan!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 75	If you are serious about making the team then incorporate this into your daily routine: http://home.no/slominski/Air%20Alert%20III.htm Also I have the better basketball.better ball handling video if you want the link just let me know. Play in as many pick-up games as you can with players above your skill level because you don't want to get injured playing with scrubs. Work hard and remember "perfect practice makes perfect"...not "practice makes perfect." You should try to take 1,000-2,000 jump shots a day. Professionals do alot more but well your not one so...

10-29-2005, 01:39 AM	#19
kenwood Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,878 Photos: 1	thats B.S...you can't lift during basketball season? thats what the coach says so i say screw basketball then

10-29-2005, 04:45 PM	#21
kenwood Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,878 Photos: 1	he said lifting during season messes too much up? i'm still wondering why

10-29-2005, 05:01 PM	#22
Mithamo Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 16	Your coach knows what hes talking about. basketball skillz are largely dependent on muscle memory. nothing can throw of a shooting practice like a heavy shoulder or tricep workout right before. and doing defensive slides for an hour after leg day? forget about it. most decent BBall coaches, especially ones that work with developing teens will make sure they get all round conditioning during practice. It may not be the time to stack on more muscle. but your added athleticism after a season of hard bball will be well worth it. with all that said. Micheal Jordan hit the weights every single morning of his basketball career. so It can be done, but carefullly and systematically. Your coach is wise to keep that pandora's box closed.
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10-31-2005, 05:58 PM	#27
kenwood Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,878 Photos: 1	POOOOOOOOOOO. ?? what