Arnolds Strength Feats

**Lee Delroy** · 10-29-2005, 04:14 AM

He said in his book he used to cheat curl 380 lbs for 5 reps when he was doing demonstrations, but I don't know how much he could curl strictly. And Bench close to 700lbs raw.

**Mudge** · 10-29-2005, 12:04 PM

Something affected his brain cells, probably ego and the forgetfullness brought on by time. He would have been a world record holder about 30 years outside of his time.

I saw somewhere that he was good for about a 475 bench in his prime.

**swordfish** · 10-29-2005, 04:58 PM

-710 dead( the pic I posted a couple of days ago)
-495x6 squat(not atg, they discuss this 500 lb squat in deleted scenes of pumping iron)
-450x3 bench press( this is in arnold's book)
-225x10 cheat curl( I do believe this was in arnold's book as well but I'm not 100 % positive)

For the bench press, a ball park figure is around 475-500 for 1 rep, so mudge is right in the neighborhood of his best. I do consider 450x3 raw on bench to be pretty strong, especially since he was in his mid 20's when he did this and weighed around 240.

**TJ Cline** · 10-29-2005, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by swordfish

-710 dead( the pic I posted a couple of days ago)
-495x6 squat(not atg, they discuss this 500 lb squat in deleted scenes of pumping iron)
-450x3 bench press( this is in arnold's book)
-225x10 cheat curl( I do believe this was in arnold's book as well but I'm not 100 % positive)

For the bench press, a ball park figure is around 475-500 for 1 rep, so mudge is right in the neighborhood of his best. I do consider 450x3 raw on bench to be pretty strong, especially since he was in his mid 20's when he did this and weighed around 240.

More like 250-255
He was 237 ripped in 1974

I also read Arnold benched 475 for a single.....think Franco said it in one of his books

**Tough Old Man** · 10-29-2005, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

More like 250-255
He was 237 ripped in 1974

I also read Arnold benched 475 for a single.....think Franco said it in one of his books

I look at it this way. If you can bench double your weight, then that's a good enough for me.

**CowPimp** · 10-29-2005, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I look at it this way. If you can bench double your weight, then that's a good enough for me.

Agreed. A raw double bodyweight bench press is very respectable!

**swordfish** · 10-30-2005, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

More like 250-255
He was 237 ripped in 1974

I also read Arnold benched 475 for a single.....think Franco said it in one of his books

That was at his absolute heaviest, he was able to do his lifts in the early 70's and he was weighing in the neighborhood of 240-245, at his ultimate biggest he was 257 I believe.

**BigDyl** · 10-30-2005, 09:38 AM

I heard he could throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

**MawkieMawk** · 10-30-2005, 10:36 AM

Regardless of how much he could bench or max out at or whatever, he by far had the best body in bodybuilding ever.... Him + frank zane = perfect bodies.

P.s I know this may start some controversy but oh well

**TJ Cline** · 10-30-2005, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by swordfish

That was at his absolute heaviest, he was able to do his lifts in the early 70's and he was weighing in the neighborhood of 240-245, at his ultimate biggest he was 257 I believe.

From 1969 and on Arnold was about 245-250 off season when gassed up, he did take time off from the juice during the year and did drop down to around 230 or so but he was far from his strongest at that time of his training.....He actually was 265 for a short time...I believe there is a famous story about Vince Gironda telling him he looked like a fat fuck...

**TJ Cline** · 10-30-2005, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by MawkieMawk

Regardless of how much he could bench or max out at or whatever, he by far had the best body in bodybuilding ever.... Him + frank zane = perfect bodies.

P.s I know this may start some controversy but oh well

**TJ Cline** · 10-30-2005, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I heard he could throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

His amazing leg speed enabled him to catch his own quarter mile passes.

**Mudge** · 10-30-2005, 12:25 PM

I never got into Zane's look myself. As for Arnie he looked great asthetically. If you look at Gunter, he actually seems to share a lot of the same overall look, long biceps etc

**myCATpowerlifts** · 10-30-2005, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I heard he could throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

**Tough Old Man** · 10-30-2005, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I heard he could throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

right and I have tossed a quarter a half a mile

**swordfish** · 10-30-2005, 03:15 PM

This picture says it all- http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery...llery1/m20.jpg

THIS IS THE EPITOME OF PHYSICAL FITNESS.

Check out this offseason pic of Arnold, WOW!

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery...ery10/ar75.jpg

**TJ Cline** · 10-30-2005, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by swordfish

This picture says it all- http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery...llery1/m20.jpg

THIS IS THE EPITOME OF PHYSICAL FITNESS.

Check out this offseason pic of Arnold, WOW!

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery...ery10/ar75.jpg

Looks 19 or 20 here

**Squaggleboggin** · 10-31-2005, 10:11 AM

Keep in mind that just because someone is huge it does not make him physically fit. The man who walks five miles every day is much healthier than the man who takes five steroids every day. I have little respect for those who use steroids and take all the credit (specifically those who compete). They didn't work for everything they got, they used drugs instead. I feel the same way about shirted bench presses - it's the gear putting up the extra 200-300 pounds. It's ridiculous.

**TJ Cline** · 10-31-2005, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Keep in mind that just because someone is huge it does not make him physically fit. The man who walks five miles every day is much healthier than the man who takes five steroids every day. I have little respect for those who use steroids and take all the credit (specifically those who compete). They didn't work for everything they got, they used drugs instead. I feel the same way about shirted bench presses - it's the gear putting up the extra 200-300 pounds. It's ridiculous.

Its a bitch but that is the way of the world....
Every career choice in life is full of cheaters......and most of the time the cheaters are the top people in that field.....its a fact of life.
Either play fair and settle for being mediocre or do what it tales to be on top...
Sports, Business, Politics, Law...ect. Its all the same.

**Squaggleboggin** · 10-31-2005, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Its a bitch but that is the way of the world....
Every career choice in life is full of cheaters......and most of the time the cheaters are the top people in that field.....its a fact of life.
Either play fair and settle for being mediocre or do what it tales to be on top...
Sports, Business, Politics, Law...ect. Its all the same.

That's very true, but I like to think that the people who go about their business disrespectfully get what's coming to them. In one way or another, it'll catch up to them in the end.

**The Monkey Man** · 10-31-2005, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I heard he could throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

I heard he could throw a frisbee a half mile...

With the weed and papers still resting in it!

**tenxyearsxgone** · 10-31-2005, 03:39 PM

steroids only enhance the insane training and dieting bodybuilders go through...it doesn't make them healthier just bigger and more massive...if you take riods and dont lift/eat like a bodybuilder you'll notice marginal strength/size gains..try it

**Mudge** · 10-31-2005, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

They didn't work for everything they got, they used drugs instead. I feel the same way about shirted bench presses - it's the gear putting up the extra 200-300 pounds. It's ridiculous.

If you think the average guy can obtain 25 inch arms without steroids, you are crazy. If you think they didn't work to get those 25 inch arms on steroids, you are uneducated on the topic altogether.

As for powerlifting, put on a shirt and see what it does for you. I challenge you in fact to do so, gear doesn't just make the lifts go up, you have to train in the gear and shift where your power lies. Glen Chabot never saw more than 30 pounds in his double ply shirt, and I never saw more than about 25 in mine (single ply trainer). Shirted benchers putting up those 200-300 more at the elite level, do so because they have the training and the triceps to get there.

You haven't walked in the shoes, and in this case you dont seem to know how either works. I'm not calling you out, I'm stating a fact. I've been there and done that in both regards, shirts dont make shitty benchers put up 200-300 more and gear doesn't a champion make.

**BigDyl** · 10-31-2005, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Mudge

If you think the average guy can obtain 25 inch arms without steroids, you are crazy. If you think they didn't work to get those 25 inch arms on steroids, you are uneducated on the topic altogether.

As for powerlifting, put on a shirt and see what it does for you. I challenge you in fact to do so, gear doesn't just make the lifts go up, you have to train in the gear and shift where your power lies. Glen Chabot never saw more than 30 pounds in his double ply shirt, and I never saw more than about 25 in mine (single ply trainer). Shirted benchers putting up those 200-300 more at the elite level, do so because they have the training and the triceps to get there.

You haven't walked in the shoes, and in this case you dont seem to know how either works. I'm not calling you out, I'm stating a fact. I've been there and done that in both regards, shirts dont make shitty benchers put up 200-300 more and gear doesn't a champion make.

**Lee Delroy** · 10-31-2005, 08:38 PM

Arnold uses Synthol

**Squaggleboggin** · 11-01-2005, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mudge

If you think the average guy can obtain 25 inch arms without steroids, you are crazy. If you think they didn't work to get those 25 inch arms on steroids, you are uneducated on the topic altogether.

As for powerlifting, put on a shirt and see what it does for you. I challenge you in fact to do so, gear doesn't just make the lifts go up, you have to train in the gear and shift where your power lies. Glen Chabot never saw more than 30 pounds in his double ply shirt, and I never saw more than about 25 in mine (single ply trainer). Shirted benchers putting up those 200-300 more at the elite level, do so because they have the training and the triceps to get there.

You haven't walked in the shoes, and in this case you dont seem to know how either works. I'm not calling you out, I'm stating a fact. I've been there and done that in both regards, shirts dont make shitty benchers put up 200-300 more and gear doesn't a champion make.

In a way you're agreeing with me - my whole point is your first sentence. I know that 25" arms are not obtainable without drugs, which means the drugs got you to that point from whatever point you were at before. To me, this takes something out of saying "Hey, I have 25" arms." It's just not something you accomplished by yourself.

I realize that you do need to have the triceps to lift the extra poundages with the shirts, but without them, you still can't lift as much. To me, this takes away from saying "I can bench press 1,000 pounds" because it's really "I can bench press 1,000 pounds with the help of a shirt." Again, I'm not saying you don't have to work to get there, that would be ridiculous; I'm saying that they couldn't have gotten to that point without extra help, and they need the extra help to stay there.

Gear does make a champion a champion though. Show me a raw lifter who can bench more than the best shirted lifter.

**swordfish** · 11-01-2005, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mudge

If you think the average guy can obtain 25 inch arms without steroids, you are crazy. If you think they didn't work to get those 25 inch arms on steroids, you are uneducated on the topic altogether.

As for powerlifting, put on a shirt and see what it does for you. I challenge you in fact to do so, gear doesn't just make the lifts go up, you have to train in the gear and shift where your power lies. Glen Chabot never saw more than 30 pounds in his double ply shirt, and I never saw more than about 25 in mine (single ply trainer). Shirted benchers putting up those 200-300 more at the elite level, do so because they have the training and the triceps to get there.

You haven't walked in the shoes, and in this case you dont seem to know how either works. I'm not calling you out, I'm stating a fact. I've been there and done that in both regards, shirts dont make shitty benchers put up 200-300 more and gear doesn't a champion make.

Agreed.

**myCATpowerlifts** · 11-01-2005, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

In a way you're agreeing with me - my whole point is your first sentence. I know that 25" arms are not obtainable without drugs, which means the drugs got you to that point from whatever point you were at before. To me, this takes something out of saying "Hey, I have 25" arms." It's just not something you accomplished by yourself.

I realize that you do need to have the triceps to lift the extra poundages with the shirts, but without them, you still can't lift as much. To me, this takes away from saying "I can bench press 1,000 pounds" because it's really "I can bench press 1,000 pounds with the help of a shirt." Again, I'm not saying you don't have to work to get there, that would be ridiculous; I'm saying that they couldn't have gotten to that point without extra help, and they need the extra help to stay there.

Gear does make a champion a champion though. Show me a raw lifter who can bench more than the best shirted lifter.

Agreed.

**TJ Cline** · 11-01-2005, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Delroy

Arnold uses Synthol

**Mudge** · 11-01-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

In a way you're agreeing with me - my whole point is your first sentence. I know that 25" arms are not obtainable without drugs, which means the drugs got you to that point from whatever point you were at before. To me, this takes something out of saying "Hey, I have 25" arms." It's just not something you accomplished by yourself.

Its not humanly possible, that I've seen to accomplish something naturally. If you think it comes easily just because steroids are in the mix, that would only be true for a very small percentage of the population. I speak from experience.

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