Thread: sleeping...

I don't know when you workout, but I go late at night when I get off work. Then after I eat my post workout meal and take a post workout protein shake, I can't possible stay awake. Most of the time I am asleep within a couple of minutes of lying down.

I agree with themamasan. The idea is to get yourself more tired throughout the day (via cardio possibly) so that when you finally go to bed, you go to bed.

Originally Posted by kenwood

...hmm maybe sleeping pills

i would not do the sleeping pills, after awhile of lying down at a certain time and trying to fall asleep, your body will adjust.

Originally Posted by kenwood

i'm having a hard time sleeping for some reason i dunno why, maybe its because i'm used to goin to bed at 1am and gettin up around 1pm...is their anyway to get use to goin to bed around 9 or 10pm? cause since school started i've been goin to bed around 12:30-1am and getting up around 6:45am and thats only 5hours of sleep and i know that can't be good lol maybe thats why i've been tired during workouts and school and stuff...hmm maybe sleeping pills

You just need to fix your sleep cycle. You're not going to like this, but the best way to do this is to wake up at the same time EVERY day. This includes weekends and if you stay up until 4. Just wake up at 6:45 each and every day and soon your body will force you to go to bed at an early enough time.

Shit 1am to 1pm?

Originally Posted by Nick+

Shit 1am to 1pm?

... kids

Originally Posted by kenwood

...hmm maybe sleeping pills

By all means I think all teeens should take sleeping pills to get the sleep in. Go to bed earlier goofy

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

By all means I think all teeens should take sleeping pills to get the sleep in. Go to bed earlier goofy

Actually, you are wrong, thanks for giving bad advice.. sleeping pills don't allow you to get into REM sleep, and thus, not only will you not be rested, but your muscles won't recover very well. Tiring yourself during the day is a weird strategy but I suppose it would work... but it isn't difficult to adjust your sleep cycle, just go to bed at a decent hour, like 10 or 10:30PM, and set an alarm for 8 am... Huzzah, you have just slept for 10 hours! repeat this process every night, and if you want to go to bed at 1-2am, and sleep until the afternoon, do it once on the weekends.

Originally Posted by Rocky_B

Actually, you are wrong, thanks for giving bad advice.. sleeping pills don't allow you to get into REM sleep, and thus, not only will you not be rested, but your muscles won't recover very well. Tiring yourself during the day is a weird strategy but I suppose it would work... but it isn't difficult to adjust your sleep cycle, just go to bed at a decent hour, like 10 or 10:30PM, and set an alarm for 8 am... Huzzah, you have just slept for 10 hours! repeat this process every night, and if you want to go to bed at 1-2am, and sleep until the afternoon, do it once on the weekends.

You obviously don't know me. It was meat as a sarcastic remark. Get a life before you tell me I'm giving bad advice. My advice was to go to bed earlier. Really you think I'd prescribe sleeping pills to teens. What an asshole.

Even I detected the sarcasm. The last sentence was kind of a dead giveaway.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Even I detected the sarcasm. The last sentence was kind of a dead giveaway.

Shows you there not all as smart as you and I


PT

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Shows you there not all as smart as you and I


PT

WTF?

i get no sleep either. it's a shame.

Originally Posted by cfs3

WTF?

Not you. There's a few on this site that just aren't to bright.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Not you. There's a few on this site that just aren't to bright.

huh?

why is a 15 year old staying up until 1 am ? and how are you sleeping until 1 pm ?

what kind of high school do yo go to ?

Originally Posted by LAM

why is a 15 year old staying up until 1 am ? and how are you sleeping until 1 pm ?

what kind of high school do yo go to ?

They let you sleep during class...

I used to require 9 hours a night or I'd be dead tired. Over the last year I slowly cut it down to 6-7. I can handle this alot better now, and sleep 10 hours a night on the weekend.

Is it true you can actually make up for missed sleep later on, like several days later?

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I used to require 9 hours a night or I'd be dead tired. Over the last year I slowly cut it down to 6-7. I can handle this alot better now, and sleep 10 hours a night on the weekend.

Is it true you can actually make up for missed sleep later on, like several days later?

It's possible, but it'll eventually catch up to you. The best thing to do is what I already said: Go to bed and wake up at the same time each and every day, no exceptions. This will make you form a regular sleep pattern. Also, don't read or do anything in bed besides sleep. If your body is used to you laying down in that area but staying up, it'll develop its own thinking that the area is meant for reading. So, if you're going to read until you fall asleep, read in a chair and then go to bed at the last minute. Your bed is for sleeping.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I used to require 9 hours a night or I'd be dead tired. Over the last year I slowly cut it down to 6-7. I can handle this alot better now, and sleep 10 hours a night on the weekend.

Is it true you can actually make up for missed sleep later on, like several days later?

you can not catch up on missed sleep. the body actually works 48 hours behind the sleep that you get. so say you stay up late tonight (tuesday) your body will feel the effects more on thursday than on wednesday...

Originally Posted by LAM

you can not catch up on missed sleep. the body actually works 48 hours behind the sleep that you get. so say you stay up late tonight (tuesday) your body will feel the effects more on thursday than on wednesday...

Your kidding.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

They let you sleep during class...

no wonder the kids in this country seem to be getting dumber and dumber...

Originally Posted by LAM

no wonder the kids in this country seem to be getting dumber and dumber...

Yup.

well sometimes i sleep through an hour of class lol(the teachers just don't bother to wake you up) or maybe i just don't wake up for them...hmmmm. ... you'd think i would be tired to go to bed around 9 0r 10pm b/c i get up eat, gym class 1st thing, workout, and eat,eat,eat,..and i do hiit cardio around 7:00pm and not eat anything afterwards

Originally Posted by LAM

no wonder the kids in this country seem to be getting dumber and dumber...

Apparently the adults too - they're the ones letting the kids sleep.

I'm goin out on a limb here, but maybe there' s some caffeine involved late in the evening. Just a thought

I'm goin out on a limb here, but maybe there' s some caffeine involved late in the evening. Just a thought ...me? i don't drink pop or coffee....i drink loads of water and protein drinks

Originally Posted by Rocky_B

Actually, you are wrong, thanks for giving bad advice.. sleeping pills don't allow you to get into REM sleep, and thus, not only will you not be rested, but your muscles won't recover very well. Tiring yourself during the day is a weird strategy but I suppose it would work... but it isn't difficult to adjust your sleep cycle, just go to bed at a decent hour, like 10 or 10:30PM, and set an alarm for 8 am... Huzzah, you have just slept for 10 hours! repeat this process every night, and if you want to go to bed at 1-2am, and sleep until the afternoon, do it once on the weekends.

Your are giving 100% bullshit information. I have taken 10mg Ambien for over 5 years, and the ONLY restful sleep I get is on nights that I take them. Over the counter pills usually do suck, but if I am out of Ambien I have to depend on them for what little sleep I can get. Some people never set a proper sleep cycle due to hormonal and chemical imbalances. Insomnia runs down the maternal side of my family and somehow I got stuck with the shit. I have played football games on Friday night playing both ways so fucking exhausted I couldn't move and still stayed up for 18-24 hours. I am not saying that the OP has a sleep disorder, but REM sleep can and is achieved while taking a sleep medication.

If you think I am wrong I will gladly provide you a couple 100 pages of double blind sleep studies showing REM sleep being achieved while taking a sleeping medication. I signed up for a sleep study after 18 years of staring at the GD ceiling of my bed room. They doped me up with various medications while plugging wires to my head and watching my brain activaty on an MRI scan.