Weird Feeling in the rear delt/trap

LexusGS · 11-10-2005, 03:23 PM

Thanks for the suggestions p funk and everyone else. Tough ol man, sorry but i thought it was you who told me that, no need to get all offensive about this shit.

DOMS · 11-10-2005, 03:24 PM

It's all good LexusGS.

LexusGS · 11-10-2005, 03:28 PM

Quote Tough old man: "....nOW LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT PARTIALS 1.5 X YOUR MAX. It helps you get use to handling heavy weight. Sometimes the mind when you get under a weight which is going to be a new one time max rep just scares the shit out of you. When you do partials for a bit with 1.5 times your max, it relieves you from that mental block of I can't handle this much weight. Partial are very good.
I can currently incline bench 390lbs for one rep. Can't do 400 lbs. I'm doing partials right now on the incline with 615 lbs for 5 reps. I raise it 5 lbs a week with no problem. I will guarantee you by July 14th i will have a new 1 time rep on the incline of 400 lbs. IMO mental is 90% of this game if not more. If it wasn't then why do little old lady's pick up thr front of the car when it falls on someone. Beat the mental game to your new personal best. "

http://ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=50268

Triple Threat · 11-10-2005, 05:07 PM

OK, so you've found TOM's advice, but it's clear that you didn't follow it correctly.

Let me highlight it for you. I raise it 5 lbs a week with no problem . Note that it doesn't say add 40 lbs.

LexusGS · 11-10-2005, 05:33 PM

yeah i know, but I was stupid and looked at nothing but the line that said 1.5X max
which in my case would be like lifting over 300lbs. My bad, all blame goes on me.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexusGS

yeah i know, but I was stupid and looked at nothing but the line that said 1.5X max
which in my case would be like lifting over 300lbs. My bad, all blame goes on me.

Ok Lexus sorry for jumping on you. The only thing I could think of where I would say upping the weights that much would be on Partials. Hell no since in doing partials with the weight you can bench for a full rom.
Partials can be very beneifial to you towards getting use to heavier weights. But you have to set the pins on a smith machine. It can be 2", 4" ect. Hey Little brother if you hurt yourself I feel bad. Adding 45 lbs to you max doing a partial should have been a piece of cake. again sorry for your injury

Tough

LexusGS · 11-10-2005, 06:00 PM

That's alright man, I'll just hope for the pain to go away. I'll be fine.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexusGS

That's alright man, I'll just hope for the pain to go away. I'll be fine.

If not we'll get P-Funk or Dale to kiss it and make it feel better. there mod's and owe it to you. Ok with you Patrick and Dale?

**P-funk** · 11-10-2005, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

If not we'll get P-Funk or Dale to kiss it and make it feel better. there mod's and owe it to you. Ok with you Patrick and Dale?

yea, that is fine.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

yea, that is fine.

You know what Patrick, I've had my little things with you, but you are the MAN. I want to personally thimk you for your intelligence towards training and you bravery to put up with all of us.

I guess If there there was two more people from this site I'd like to meet, It would be YOU and Mudge

PT

**Dale Mabry** · 11-10-2005, 08:35 PM

I,m not kissing anything that doesn't have tits.

Here is why you don't unrack an ultra heavy bench, as opposed to a sqaut.

When unracking an ultra heavy squat, to get used to it, you get under the weight, push up, and walk out. All of the work is done in a very good position, straight up, and all you do is walk back. The small musculature that is stabilizing and bringing the weight back are the hammies, ass and quads.

With an ultra heavy bench, you unrack the weight and nearly simultaneously pull the weight over your body, using very small musculature to bring it in place. In this exercise, the small stabilizing structure that brings the weight to where it needs to be is the rotator cuff. This is why most take a liftoff with a 1rm bench press.

So, in the squat, the small musculature doing the work is roughly the size of your lower body, in the bench, it is slightly larger than the size of a dollar bill.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I,m not kissing anything that doesn't have tits.

Here is why you don't unrack an ultra heavy bench, as opposed to a sqaut.

When unracking an ultra heavy squat, to get used to it, you get under the weight, push up, and walk out. All of the work is done in a very good position, straight up, and all you do is walk back. The small musculature that is stabilizing and bringing the weight back are the hammies, ass and quads.

With an ultra heavy bench, you unrack the weight and nearly simultaneously pull the weight over your body, using very small musculature to bring it in place. In this exercise, the small stabilizing structure that brings the weight to where it needs to be is the rotator cuff. This is why most take a liftoff with a 1rm bench press.

So, in the squat, the small musculature doing the work is roughly the size of your lower body, in the bench, it is slightly larger than the size of a dollar bill.

We are glad you chimed in on the squats. I'll keep this in the back of my mind. The posters question has to do with what happened doing his bench, not SQUAT. You answere in RE: to chest was great.

bulletproof1 · 11-10-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I,m not kissing anything that doesn't have tits.

**Dale Mabry** · 11-10-2005, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletproof1

Oh hells yeah.

DOMS · 11-10-2005, 09:41 PM

Good God, it has a pierced nipple.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfs3

Good God, it has a pierced nipple.

Wrong looks like Dale after a good night at the local PUB. I still love you Dale you fucking alcoholic

Tough

**Dale Mabry** · 11-10-2005, 10:25 PM

Looks more liek me after that pizza I just ate, but I will be lean after a dose of raisin bran tomorrow morning.

myCATpowerlifts · 11-11-2005, 01:46 PM

Such a heartfelt thread...moves me to tears... :\

11-10-2005, 08:35 PM	#41
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,881 Photos: 10	I,m not kissing anything that doesn't have tits. Here is why you don't unrack an ultra heavy bench, as opposed to a sqaut. When unracking an ultra heavy squat, to get used to it, you get under the weight, push up, and walk out. All of the work is done in a very good position, straight up, and all you do is walk back. The small musculature that is stabilizing and bringing the weight back are the hammies, ass and quads. With an ultra heavy bench, you unrack the weight and nearly simultaneously pull the weight over your body, using very small musculature to bring it in place. In this exercise, the small stabilizing structure that brings the weight to where it needs to be is the rotator cuff. This is why most take a liftoff with a 1rm bench press. So, in the squat, the small musculature doing the work is roughly the size of your lower body, in the bench, it is slightly larger than the size of a dollar bill.
	If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

11-10-2005, 10:25 PM	#47
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,881 Photos: 10	Looks more liek me after that pizza I just ate, but I will be lean after a dose of raisin bran tomorrow morning.
	If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

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11-10-2005, 03:23 PM	#31
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	Thanks for the suggestions p funk and everyone else. Tough ol man, sorry but i thought it was you who told me that, no need to get all offensive about this shit.

11-10-2005, 03:24 PM	#32
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,725 Photos: 6	It's all good LexusGS.

11-10-2005, 03:28 PM	#33
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	Quote Tough old man: "....nOW LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT PARTIALS 1.5 X YOUR MAX. It helps you get use to handling heavy weight. Sometimes the mind when you get under a weight which is going to be a new one time max rep just scares the shit out of you. When you do partials for a bit with 1.5 times your max, it relieves you from that mental block of I can't handle this much weight. Partial are very good. I can currently incline bench 390lbs for one rep. Can't do 400 lbs. I'm doing partials right now on the incline with 615 lbs for 5 reps. I raise it 5 lbs a week with no problem. I will guarantee you by July 14th i will have a new 1 time rep on the incline of 400 lbs. IMO mental is 90% of this game if not more. If it wasn't then why do little old lady's pick up thr front of the car when it falls on someone. Beat the mental game to your new personal best. " http://ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=50268

11-10-2005, 05:07 PM	#34
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,490 Photos: 6	OK, so you've found TOM's advice, but it's clear that you didn't follow it correctly. Let me highlight it for you. I raise it 5 lbs a week with no problem . Note that it doesn't say add 40 lbs.

11-10-2005, 05:33 PM	#35
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	yeah i know, but I was stupid and looked at nothing but the line that said 1.5X max which in my case would be like lifting over 300lbs. My bad, all blame goes on me.

11-10-2005, 06:00 PM	#37
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	That's alright man, I'll just hope for the pain to go away. I'll be fine.

11-10-2005, 09:41 PM	#45
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,725 Photos: 6	Good God, it has a pierced nipple.

11-11-2005, 01:46 PM	#48
myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	Such a heartfelt thread...moves me to tears... :\