Weird Feeling in the rear delt/trap

LexusGS · 11-09-2005, 05:14 PM

Sup yall.
This week I took the advice of someone on here a while ago by lifting more weight then I could actually bench. I could bench 225 and I unracked 265 and just held it up for a few seconds. Now, I got a weird knife-stabbing feeling in my rear delt/upper trap when I do the bench press. I tried unracking 115lbs today and my right side can barely do it with alot of pain.
You guys think it's gonna go away? What do you think I should do about this?
All help appreciated.

TJ Cline · 11-09-2005, 05:25 PM

Sounds like a pinched nerve...

Who here told you to do that..

LexusGS · 11-09-2005, 05:30 PM

i dunno, but i think it was tough old man

LexusGS · 11-09-2005, 05:35 PM

if it is what you say it is, will it go away? and how long does it take stuff like this to heal?

**P-funk** · 11-09-2005, 07:33 PM

pinched nerves go away with rest. I don't think you tore anything since you didn't even move through a ROM. You just unracked it? That sounds like jsut about the dumbest fucking thing ever. i know people that do walk outs for their squat and just unrack weight and walk out and stand and then walk back. But taht is a bit different. Your legs are a huge muscle group and can handle heavier loads. Unracking a weight that is 40lbs better then your 1RM just to hold it there is dumb as shit. use common sense next time.

**CowPimp** · 11-09-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

pinched nerves go away with rest. I don't think you tore anything since you didn't even move through a ROM. You just unracked it? That sounds like jsut about the dumbest fucking thing ever. i know people that do walk outs for their squat and just unrack weight and walk out and stand and then walk back. But taht is a bit different. Your legs are a huge muscle group and can handle heavier loads. Unracking a weight that is 40lbs better then your 1RM just to hold it there is dumb as shit. use common sense next time.

Haha, really. Anyway, have you considered seeing a doctor? People are way too reluctant to do that sometimes!

Squaggleboggin · 11-09-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LexusGS

Sup yall.
This week I took the advice of someone on here a while ago by lifting more weight then I could actually bench. I could bench 225 and I unracked 265 and just held it up for a few seconds. Now, I got a weird knife-stabbing feeling in my rear delt/upper trap when I do the bench press. I tried unracking 115lbs today and my right side can barely do it with alot of pain.
You guys think it's gonna go away? What do you think I should do about this?
All help appreciated.

I must agree with the others, this was most unwise. Why not do your max plus five pounds? It's still supermaximal (I think that's the term anyways) weight and it should have the same general effect with whatever you were trying to do (I'm guessing slow negatives because just unracking it won't do a whole lot).

**CowPimp** · 11-09-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

I must agree with the others, this was most unwise. Why not do your max plus five pounds? It's still supermaximal (I think that's the term anyways) weight and it should have the same general effect with whatever you were trying to do (I'm guessing slow negatives because just unracking it won't do a whole lot).

The idea behind "walkouts" is to make yourself comfortable with heavier weights. That way when you are in a competition shooting for a new PR you don't freak out when you unrack the weight like it's totally unfamiliar territory. However, you don't want to be doing that with like 20% more than your current max.

BigDyl · 11-09-2005, 08:38 PM

Is this not like doing a "static hold"?

**P-funk** · 11-10-2005, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Is this not like doing a "static hold"?

don't know to many people that do static holds (isometrics) at an end range of motion (aside from the BB walk outs that I described). It would have been a static hold if he had brought it down to 90 degrees of elbow flexion and held it there for 10sec. Or if he brought it to his chest and held it there. Static holds are joint angle specific though. While they help to increase strength and fiber recruitment they only will build strength in the joint angle in which they are being held at (ie 90 degree of elbow flexion). Even still, why do a static hold with 40lbs (85% more than your max weight). That just gets dangerous. The risk is greater then the reward.

bulletproof1 · 11-10-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

That sounds like just about the dumbest fucking thing ever. use common sense next time.

DOMS · 11-10-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bulletproof1

Yeah, that's P-funk: always holding it in.

**P-funk** · 11-10-2005, 09:47 AM

sometimes I need to vent.

DOMS · 11-10-2005, 10:02 AM

Come with us now as we visit, yet again, Dr. P-funk as he "treats" a patient:

Dr. P-funk: What the hell were you thinking?!
Patient: But...
Dr. P-funk: Goddammit! If you were any dumber you'd swallow your tongue!
Patient: But...
Dr. P-funk: Maybe I should make you an organ donar right now!
Patient: But...it's just a splinter...
Dr. P-funk: That'll fuckin' teach you not touch woods again! Won't it?!

Triple Threat · 11-10-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Is this not like doing a "static hold"?

I've never heard (well, before this thread, anyway) of anyone doing a static hold for a bench press. I've done them standing up for deadlift grip strength, but the ROM is about 2 inches and if I my grip fails, I can just drop the bar.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusGS

i dunno, but i think it was tough old man

Hey Asshole you better know your fucking facts before you bring up someone's name for getting an injury motherfucker

Wrong try a different door as I would never tell someone something like that. I wouldn't advise anyone to attemp 40 lbs more then there bench just for the fuck of it. Sounds like someone was telling you to do static holds or something which some do on there last rep and set. I do on my benching but with the weight I'm working with and not in a locked out position.

Find someone else to put the blame on, not old Toughy

Squaggleboggin · 11-10-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

The idea behind "walkouts" is to make yourself comfortable with heavier weights. That way when you are in a competition shooting for a new PR you don't freak out when you unrack the weight like it's totally unfamiliar territory. However, you don't want to be doing that with like 20% more than your current max.

Yeah but I was referring to just benching. I could see adding five pounds to your max and attempting a slow negative or something, but forty pounds seems a little pointless to me.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusGS

i dunno, but i think it was tough old man

I searched all your threads you have started. This appears to be the only person to give you advice.

Thanks cowpimp, and by the way, i dont know if you remember, but i pm'd you a long while back to ask for tips on breaking my barrier, what you said helped alot, I now lift about 45lbs more for more reps. Just thought you'd be interested to see if your advice helped me progress. Thanks again.

Go fuck yourself LEXUS

DOMS · 11-10-2005, 11:37 AM

Uh oh, boys and girls...it's Roid Rage.

Seriously TOM, WTF? Lexus didn't say anything derogatory, he just forgot who and named you. Why the cut down?

**P-funk** · 11-10-2005, 11:49 AM

lol, this thread gets better by the hour!

In all seriousness lexus.....take a week off and see if the pain works itself out. If you are still hurting get to the doctor.

**Dale Mabry** · 11-10-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Thanks cowpimp, and by the way, i dont know if you remember, but i pm'd you a long while back to ask for tips on breaking my barrier, what you said helped alot, I now lift about 45lbs more for more reps. Just thought you'd be interested to see if your advice helped me progress.

Actually, he is not interested, he made that shit up just to goof with you. He got it off the "I'm a panzie" board and now you are screwed, your bench will drop and you will catch the ghey and die of the HIV. Jokes on you.

Now go get me a tall cold one.

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Actually, he is not interested, he made that shit up just to goof with you. He got it off the "I'm a panzie" board and now you are screwed, your bench will drop and you will catch the ghey and die of the HIV. Jokes on you.

Now go get me a tall cold one.

Not a problem if you still buying. Meet you at the pub

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cfs3

Uh oh, boys and girls...it's Roid Rage.

Seriously TOM, WTF? Lexus didn't say anything derogatory, he just forgot who and named you. Why the cut down?

Not sure, my mother-in-Law

* Legion * · 11-10-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

pinched nerves go away with rest. I don't think you tore anything since you didn't even move through a ROM. You just unracked it? That sounds like jsut about the dumbest fucking thing ever. i know people that do walk outs for their squat and just unrack weight and walk out and stand and then walk back. But taht is a bit different. Your legs are a huge muscle group and can handle heavier loads. Unracking a weight that is 40lbs better then your 1RM just to hold it there is dumb as shit. use common sense next time.

Hold on there. Actually, I have heard that some powerlifters (experienced, however) do this. I agree, it is silly, and asking for trouble. However, it is not unheard of. You would be better at explaining the logic behind this, using the correct terminology, than I. Supposedly, it is to trick your body into adjusting to the "feel" of the heavier weights, to then drop the weight in poundage and hit some reps. Perhaps it is to make the heavier weights less intimidating?

Tough Old Man · 11-10-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by * Legion *

Hold on there. Actually, I have heard that some powerlifters (experienced, however) do this. I agree, it is silly, and asking for trouble. However, it is not unheard of. You would be better at explaining the logic behind this, using the correct terminology, than I. Supposedly, it is to trick your body into adjusting to the "feel" of the heavier weights, to then drop the weight in poundage and hit some reps. Perhaps it is to make the heavier weights less intimidating?

I agree and the only time I would adjust my lift like that is if I was doing partials on a smith machine

**P-funk** · 11-10-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by * Legion *

Hold on there. Actually, I have heard that some powerlifters (experienced, however) do this. I agree, it is silly, and asking for trouble. However, it is not unheard of. You would be better at explaining the logic behind this, using the correct terminology, than I. Supposedly, it is to trick your body into adjusting to the "feel" of the heavier weights, to then drop the weight in poundage and hit some reps. Perhaps it is to make the heavier weights less intimidating?

yea, I have only heard of them doing it with squats, like i said.

* Legion * · 11-10-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I agree and the only time I would adjust my lift like that is if I was doing partials on a smith machine

Hell, its intimidat

11-09-2005, 05:14 PM	#1
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	Weird Feeling in the rear delt/trap Sup yall. This week I took the advice of someone on here a while ago by lifting more weight then I could actually bench. I could bench 225 and I unracked 265 and just held it up for a few seconds. Now, I got a weird knife-stabbing feeling in my rear delt/upper trap when I do the bench press. I tried unracking 115lbs today and my right side can barely do it with alot of pain. You guys think it's gonna go away? What do you think I should do about this? All help appreciated.

11-09-2005, 05:25 PM	#2
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Sounds like a pinched nerve... Who here told you to do that..
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11-09-2005, 07:33 PM	#5
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,436	pinched nerves go away with rest. I don't think you tore anything since you didn't even move through a ROM. You just unracked it? That sounds like jsut about the dumbest fucking thing ever. i know people that do walk outs for their squat and just unrack weight and walk out and stand and then walk back. But taht is a bit different. Your legs are a huge muscle group and can handle heavier loads. Unracking a weight that is 40lbs better then your 1RM just to hold it there is dumb as shit. use common sense next time.
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11-10-2005, 09:47 AM	#13
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,436	sometimes I need to vent.
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11-10-2005, 11:49 AM	#20
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,436	lol, this thread gets better by the hour! In all seriousness lexus.....take a week off and see if the pain works itself out. If you are still hurting get to the doctor.
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11-09-2005, 05:30 PM	#3
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	i dunno, but i think it was tough old man

11-09-2005, 05:35 PM	#4
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	if it is what you say it is, will it go away? and how long does it take stuff like this to heal?

11-10-2005, 10:02 AM	#14
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,515 Photos: 5	Come with us now as we visit, yet again, Dr. P-funk as he "treats" a patient: Dr. P-funk: What the hell were you thinking?! Patient: But... Dr. P-funk: Goddammit! If you were any dumber you'd swallow your tongue! Patient: But... Dr. P-funk: Maybe I should make you an organ donar right now! Patient: But...it's just a splinter... Dr. P-funk: That'll fuckin' teach you not touch woods again! Won't it?!

11-10-2005, 11:37 AM	#19
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,515 Photos: 5	Uh oh, boys and girls...it's Roid Rage. Seriously TOM, WTF? Lexus didn't say anything derogatory, he just forgot who and named you. Why the cut down?