Lat Pull Machine

JimDugba · 11-13-2005, 06:34 PM

When doing Lat pull what type of grip do you prefer and what advantages does each offer. Wide, behind neck;close, reverse grip; shoulder width grip; or any other grips.

Scotty the Body · 11-14-2005, 05:21 PM

Wide, overhand grip to the front.

I use to do them to the back but got use to doing them to the front to avoid any possible injury as "THEY" say its bad for you, whoever "they" are.

kenwood · 11-14-2005, 05:27 PM

front wide/medium overhand

**Dale Mabry** · 11-14-2005, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty the Body

Wide, overhand grip to the front.

I use to do them to the back but got use to doing them to the front to avoid any possible injury as "THEY" say its bad for you, whoever "they" are.

Are we here for a significant amount of time or are we gonna leave in a day as per usual.

Tough Old Man · 11-15-2005, 12:05 PM

I use three varieties for lat pulls.

1) wide grip to front
2) underhand medium grip to front
3) Low pulley v-handle to front.
This week 1, following lat workout 2, following lat workout 3 and the repeat. I only use one working set of lat pulls per workout

TheCurse · 11-16-2005, 03:31 AM

i like to throw in the short (about 18 inches i think) neutral grip handle when they have one if i do pulldowns, cant tell you how it works things any differently though.

**CowPimp** · 11-16-2005, 11:24 AM

I don't really do pulldowns, but when I do pullups I always go to the front. I have read that undue stress is placed on your AC joint when pushing or pulling weight from behind the head.

If you take an overhand or underhand grip, then the main difference is that your biceps are placed in an optimal position to lift more weight when your grip is supinated. There is some kind of difference related to working internal an external rotators of the shoulder too. However, I am honestly a little confused as to figuring out when the shoulder is in external and internal rotation.

If you take a really wide grip, then you are performing shoulder adduction. Think the opposite of a lateral raise and add in elbow flexion. If you are using a close grip, then you are performing shoulder extension. Think the opposite of a front raise and add in elbow flexion. You are training your lats, and various other muscles in your back, on different planes of motion. Narrow grip is performed on the sagittal place; wide grip is the frontal plane.

DOMS · 11-16-2005, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Are we here for a significant amount of time or are we gonna leave in a day as per usual.

nmuriqi · 11-17-2005, 02:23 AM

Pulling the bar behind your neck is an unnatural movement. I never do unnatural movements...unless of course i'm banging my neighbors wife.

ness · 11-17-2005, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty the Body

Wide, overhand grip to the front.

When you say wide, how wide are you talking? Do pulldowns become more inaffective the wider your grip gets? Personally my grip is a couple inches wider than my shoulders...bad?

lnvanry · 11-17-2005, 01:29 PM

I go as wide as possible...I also go behine the neck and in front. I try to rotate every week. I even do my pull ups behine the neck sometimes. I have never felt a strain on my shoulders, ever.

I am sure the first time you try "unatural" movements at a reasonable weight you aren't going to tear anything...If your shoudlers start to hurt, then stop it. I get a better contraction behind the neck, but with front pull downs I can do more reps/weight

dougnukem · 11-17-2005, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I use three varieties for lat pulls.

1) wide grip to front
2) underhand medium grip to front
3) Low pulley v-handle to front.
This week 1, following lat workout 2, following lat workout 3 and the repeat. I only use one working set of lat pulls per workout

I second that. That is, I do basically the same thing. I try not to get too focused on the Lat Pulldown machine, as I don't feel it's as effective for me as it used to be.

myCATpowerlifts · 11-17-2005, 01:43 PM

I usually do both during a set, pull to front, then alternate, pull to back.
I feel it better when pulling behind the neck.

Scotty the Body · 11-29-2005, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Are we here for a significant amount of time or are we gonna leave in a day as per usual.

In and out like a flash, hehe

11-13-2005, 06:34 PM	#1
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11-14-2005, 05:21 PM	#2
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11-16-2005, 03:31 AM	#6
TheCurse Barbell Ninja Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dago Posts: 767 Photos: 6	i like to throw in the short (about 18 inches i think) neutral grip handle when they have one if i do pulldowns, cant tell you how it works things any differently though.
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11-16-2005, 11:24 AM	#7
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,428	I don't really do pulldowns, but when I do pullups I always go to the front. I have read that undue stress is placed on your AC joint when pushing or pulling weight from behind the head. If you take an overhand or underhand grip, then the main difference is that your biceps are placed in an optimal position to lift more weight when your grip is supinated. There is some kind of difference related to working internal an external rotators of the shoulder too. However, I am honestly a little confused as to figuring out when the shoulder is in external and internal rotation. If you take a really wide grip, then you are performing shoulder adduction. Think the opposite of a lateral raise and add in elbow flexion. If you are using a close grip, then you are performing shoulder extension. Think the opposite of a front raise and add in elbow flexion. You are training your lats, and various other muscles in your back, on different planes of motion. Narrow grip is performed on the sagittal place; wide grip is the frontal plane.
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11-17-2005, 02:23 AM	#9
nmuriqi Swelling up Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 210 Photos: 4	Pulling the bar behind your neck is an unnatural movement. I never do unnatural movements...unless of course i'm banging my neighbors wife.
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11-14-2005, 05:27 PM	#3
kenwood Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,878 Photos: 1	front wide/medium overhand

11-15-2005, 12:05 PM	#5
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	I use three varieties for lat pulls. 1) wide grip to front 2) underhand medium grip to front 3) Low pulley v-handle to front. This week 1, following lat workout 2, following lat workout 3 and the repeat. I only use one working set of lat pulls per workout

11-17-2005, 01:29 PM	#11
lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3,105 Photos: 12	I go as wide as possible...I also go behine the neck and in front. I try to rotate every week. I even do my pull ups behine the neck sometimes. I have never felt a strain on my shoulders, ever. I am sure the first time you try "unatural" movements at a reasonable weight you aren't going to tear anything...If your shoudlers start to hurt, then stop it. I get a better contraction behind the neck, but with front pull downs I can do more reps/weight

11-17-2005, 01:43 PM	#13
myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	I usually do both during a set, pull to front, then alternate, pull to back. I feel it better when pulling behind the neck.

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