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11-23-2005, 04:54 PM
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Liftis Bigis Weightis
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? about bicep 21's curls
Are they more for definition because they are high rep or can they be an integral part of size training? I really love the pump and burn I get from em! but don't want to overtrain using them. I still have small bi's and would like some opinions on frequency of that exercise. Can I use them every time I do biceps?
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"I just have shit bag genetics but a good work ethic." P-FUNK
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11-23-2005, 05:01 PM
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How long have you been lifting?? I think all you need is a good basic workout.......the fancy shit is worthless for a beginner. |
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11-23-2005, 06:44 PM
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Let me ask you a question: would you do sets of 21 reps for any other body part?
Didn't think so... |
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11-23-2005, 07:56 PM
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Are you saying that there is a major difference between a 20 rep set and a 21 rep set?
I wasn't implying that 20=21. I inferred that the question MWpro asked was about doing a larger than normal number of reps in a given set, and answered accordingly. Sorry for confusing you. |
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11-23-2005, 08:08 PM
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Oh, and 20 rep squats are far different from 21s. As far as I know, 21s involve partial reps for 14 of the 21 reps; 20 rep squats don't involve partial reps at all. Plus, the practicality of 20 rep squats is questionable IMO. You don't need to make yourself puke to get a good workout. |
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11-23-2005, 08:20 PM
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no bullshit! well sort of?  |
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11-23-2005, 08:54 PM
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21's belong in bodybuilding folklore...
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11-23-2005, 09:21 PM
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11-23-2005, 09:22 PM
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That is why I ask! I'm basically a noob. Lifted like 10 years ago but no intensity. at age 52, what can I say.. I'm a late starter! My core strength blows?. I work out at home. But I am making good progress. Joint pain recovery is my biggest problem. But I keep adding on more weight every chance. I don't have a partner for spots so I don't challenge myself? I know thats bad. Do I need to establish a 1RM? for all lifts? With all this new info I am making much better gains than before. That's why I am here. I am tripped out by guys like Clarence Bass. I eat fairly clean and keep the supp industry afloat. I just got on HRT this week. Hope it helps some. I feel better already. one bright spot, I got laid off so I got a lot more time to devote to exercise. I working on a basic 3 day nothing fancy. So critique away.. my man! Monday Chest Shoulders Tri's Dips 3x12 DB military press 3x12 BB Incline bench 10-8-6-4 BB flat bench 10-8-6-4 3x12 of one.... Tri ext, kickbacks, or lying tri ext Skullcrushers? Wednesday Back, Lats, Biceps WG Pulldowns 4x12 Bent Over rows 3x12 Seated Cable Rows 3x12 or light SLDL's (bad disks) 3x12 of one...Seated incline DB curl, or Standing BB curl, or Preacher curls, or 21's Friday Legs warm up lunges 3x12 squats 12-10-8-6-4 leg extensions 3x20 leg curls 4x12 standing calf raises 3x20 |
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11-23-2005, 09:32 PM
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Not a bad workout.. although I would drop the volume a bit.
But Im at HIT'er, so thats typical of me :P |
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11-23-2005, 09:41 PM
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Also don't try to follow the workout of some 18 year old kid. Training each muscle once a week is all you need to do. |
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11-24-2005, 12:53 AM
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There is no such thing as a "definition exercise." Unless you count diet as an exercise. Definition is a function of body fat. You need to increase muscle mass or decrease body fat to improve definition.
Feel free to give 21s a try, but I don't think there is anything magical about fooling with tempos and partials. Just lift and eat. Vary your exercises and repetition ranges as you see fit. Don't overthink it. |
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11-24-2005, 07:24 AM
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 K.I.S.S.- aka "keep it simple stupid!"   Thanks |
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11-24-2005, 07:59 AM
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11-24-2005, 11:19 AM
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11-24-2005, 01:42 PM
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11-24-2005, 01:49 PM
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