Need To Blast My Arms

tommyguns · 03-29-2002, 08:31 PM

Hey, I'm looking for a sure fire routine to blast the hell outa my arms. I'm 17 years old, and my arms are stuck at around 16- 17 inches. I currently train my biceps after chest, and my triceps after shoulders. I am going to switch to training biceps and triceps together on their own day. I was planing on doing 4 different supersets for 3 sets each. What are spme great excercises i could use to superset, and does this sound like a good routine to add size to my arms?? Any great routiens for arms would be appreciated. Thanks

realdeal · 03-29-2002, 08:53 PM

right now since you are 17, you have to change your routine every 3 weeks to see what kind of scheme works with your body. Hopefully u have a good foundation from doing a couple yrs of basic training with heavy weights. between the age of 18-22 that is when your testosterone is at its highest and you get to grow fast. If u keep on changing your routine AND writing down your measurements..... by the time your 21 you should know what type of training whether it be low reps, high reps, drop sets and so on works for you. I'm telling you try everything, try every Weider principal there is, how do u think Jay Cutler got to be so big its because of trying out every workout there is out there until you hit the jackpot, THEN my friend you will Break growth Barriers.

thanks bro

bubbasr · 03-30-2002, 06:37 AM

I found that a day of rest in between workouts help to make you grow better. I agree with realdeal try everything see what works best for you,also for each workout change the way your set's rotate. Such as seated dumbell curl's/ ez bar curl's/ hammer curl's/ preacher curl's. The next time you do bi's change the order,this way the muscle will not get used to a routine. I also change my bi's and tri's routine up every other workout. Get into a lot of reading Flex/ Muscle and fitness/ Musclemag listen to the pro's.
GOOD LUCK!!!!

Scotty the Body · 03-30-2002, 03:17 PM

Best thing for arm growth........Squats and Deads!!!

I believe that your arms will grow in proportion to your body, so make sure your working your WHOLE body not just your arms and chest.
You should make sure you have the following in your arm workouts:

BB curl
Preacher curl
Hammer curl

Narrow grip bench
skull crushers
push downs

You can do many variations of these using BB DB and cables, don't forget the Tri's make up 2/3 of your arm and YOU WON'T GROW WITHOUT PROPER REST AND DIET!!!!!

**gopro** · 03-30-2002, 03:53 PM

See my routine in the "plateau" thread here in the training forum!

Robboe · 03-31-2002, 06:20 AM

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read fookin flex?!!!!!

Read fookin M&F?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to the pros?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay Cutler got big from switching things up?!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**gopro** · 03-31-2002, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read fookin flex?!!!!!

Read fookin M&F?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to the pros?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay Cutler got big from switching things up?!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chicken...seriously dude...do you think that I have come to my conclusions by reading flex of M&F, or trusting the pros? C'mon man...I have tried EVERY system in existence...GVT, Heavy Duty, POF, Gironda, full body training, high sets, low sets, high reps, low reps, super slow, explosive, etc, etc, etc.....

I have been lucky enough to have my own lab and my own lab rats...my gym and my clients, not to mention myself...to find out what works, what REALLY works for the majority of people. What produces the best size and strength gains, as well as the best athletic achievement...and what I preach IS IT.

Gosh...Paul and Chris really have you brainwashed

If you don't agree with me then just train your way, ok?

Robboe · 03-31-2002, 02:31 PM

Mr 'Pro seems to think i have a vendetta against him.

Where, in this thread, have you made reference to pro BBers or any magazines? (except the above post)

Exactly, you didn't. Hence, my post was not directed at you, although you should have corrected the lad by telling him that pros are predominatly clueless and that magazines won't aid you in getting big. (unless you do drugs).

That is all.

tommyguns · 03-31-2002, 03:53 PM

I do train my whole body and in fact have competed in some local powerlifting events and even won a few. I just wanted to focus a little time and alot of effort on building my arms up. Dont let y age fool you, im very serious and dedicated, and i pretty much stick to the basics, i just want to change things around for a little bit

sKullKnot · 03-31-2002, 04:34 PM

bi's are for show
tri's are for go

**gopro** · 03-31-2002, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Mr 'Pro seems to think i have a vendetta against him.

Where, in this thread, have you made reference to pro BBers or any magazines? (except the above post)

Exactly, you didn't. Hence, my post was not directed at you, although you should have corrected the lad by telling him that pros are predominatly clueless and that magazines won't aid you in getting big. (unless you do drugs).

That is all.

Yes you do

bubbasr · 03-31-2002, 08:00 PM

Gopro it was directed at me for saying to read alot and listen to Pro's. But you know what the more you read the more you learn and what works for one might not work for another.
Why are we reading the post's on this site? For the heck of it or to learn more.

**gopro** · 04-01-2002, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bubbasr

Gopro it was directed at me for saying to read alot and listen to Pro's. But you know what the more you read the more you learn and what works for one might not work for another.
Why are we reading the post's on this site? For the heck of it or to learn more.

Well, you never know with Chicken Daddy...he has alot of venom to spew

Robboe · 04-01-2002, 08:28 AM

I read the posts on this site to see how much i can annoy Mr 'Pro here.

It's fun

**gopro** · 04-01-2002, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro

Well, you never know with Chicken Daddy...he has alot of venom to spew

By the way...I like how you call me "Mr 'Pro."

Robboe · 04-01-2002, 11:35 AM

I respect my elders.

(it's just the old grandads that i mock muwhahahaha haha j/k

)

btw, you're going for a pro card soon are you not?

**gopro** · 04-01-2002, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
I respect my elders.

(it's just the old grandads that i mock muwhahahaha haha j/k

)

btw, you're going for a pro card soon are you not?

You should respect your elders...many of us have wisdom that you can only hope to attain one day...so listen up!

As for my pro card...yes, if I can work it in to my life this year, I plan on doing a WNBF super pro qualifier this September.

Robboe · 04-02-2002, 05:18 AM

Good luck.

**gopro** · 04-02-2002, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Good luck.

Just hope that was sincere...if it was, then Thank you.

Robboe · 04-02-2002, 09:29 AM

It was actually.

**gopro** · 04-02-2002, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
It was actually.

Well, then once again...thank you!

ActionMatt · 04-02-2002, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro

I have been lucky enough to have my own lab and my own lab rats...my gym and my clients, not to mention myself...to find out what works, what REALLY works for the majority of people. What produces the best size and strength gains, as well as the best athletic achievement...and what I preach IS IT.

I listen to guys who've been doing it a lot longer than you have, and they disagree with what you say. I can document the results of my sources in the records of Olympic sports, powerlifting competitions, and various similar events. You've got to give me something to work with if you expect to be taken seriously.

Regarding the bolded statement: Do you advocate your bodybuilding methods for athletic performance as well?

Scotty the Body · 04-02-2002, 03:23 PM

You've got to give me something to work with if you expect to be taken seriously.

What part of Gopro's responses don't you agree with???

I think Gopro's advice is very sound, but I still take he and any others advice and make my own decisions. Just because Arnold or anyone else says something works or doesn't work doesn't make it law.

ActionMatt · 04-02-2002, 04:27 PM

That's the whole point, Scotty. When he claims something like using various exercises to shape a muscle, its not law.

However, I'm very willing to listen to anyone who can back up their ideas with proven science. Mr. 'Pro has chosen to disregard any scientifically-oriented argument for the "I am superior so I don't care what you say, listen to ME" argument.

That does nothing to convince me, and it should do nothing to convince *anyone.*

**Prince** · 04-02-2002, 07:17 PM

Actually, gopro's argument is experience is more important than the scientific research you're reading in the books when it comes to bodybuilding.

**gopro** · 04-02-2002, 07:42 PM

Ok Action Matt...I've got a couple of things to say to you...

First to answer your question, no I do not train my athletes the same way I train my bodybuilders. Athletes have a whole other set of goals and require a different training strategy. I also do not train my elderly clients like my teens, or the women like the men, or a basketball player like a wrestler.

Second...I have NEVER EVER said once ANYWHERE that I am better or superior to anyone else. I do not say listen to me and discount what everyone else says. All I do say is that I have taken a very long time to come to my methodolgy. I have dedicated the better part of my life to health/fitness/nutrition etc. I am willing to share what I have learned with anyone and everyone...even those I compete against. And if I did not know for sure whether what I say has worked wonders for me and my hundreds of clients over the years, than I WOULD NOT SAY IT!

I will say it again. Science should not be ignored. Science has its place and I read all the journals just like you. But science will never replace REAL WORLD EVIDENCE and REAL WORLD RESULTS.

If I wanted to visit the jungles of Africa, would I read a book on the subject...maybe, but then I'd hire an experienced guide, someone who has been there, experienced the sights, the smells...knows the dangers, what to look for, what to avoid...someone that can really SHOW ME THE WAY around in the safest, most efficient way possible!

So, thats what I am...a guide...a pretty f'n big one!

tommyguns · 04-02-2002, 10:01 PM

School him Gopro. My science is studied in the trenches, under massive iron with sweat pouring like a fukin foutain. I try alot of different things, but what i've found is that the basics are the staples of bodybuilding, and those who forget about them learn the hard way. Thanks for all the great advice

03-29-2002, 08:31 PM	#1
tommyguns Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nj Posts: 21	Need To Blast My Arms Hey, I'm looking for a sure fire routine to blast the hell outa my arms. I'm 17 years old, and my arms are stuck at around 16- 17 inches. I currently train my biceps after chest, and my triceps after shoulders. I am going to switch to training biceps and triceps together on their own day. I was planing on doing 4 different supersets for 3 sets each. What are spme great excercises i could use to superset, and does this sound like a good routine to add size to my arms?? Any great routiens for arms would be appreciated. Thanks
	If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got...go heavy or go home..there is NO substitute fo intensity!!!

03-29-2002, 08:53 PM	#2
realdeal Amateur Bodybuilder Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 367	right now since you are 17, you have to change your routine every 3 weeks to see what kind of scheme works with your body. Hopefully u have a good foundation from doing a couple yrs of basic training with heavy weights. between the age of 18-22 that is when your testosterone is at its highest and you get to grow fast. If u keep on changing your routine AND writing down your measurements..... by the time your 21 you should know what type of training whether it be low reps, high reps, drop sets and so on works for you. I'm telling you try everything, try every Weider principal there is, how do u think Jay Cutler got to be so big its because of trying out every workout there is out there until you hit the jackpot, THEN my friend you will Break growth Barriers. thanks bro
	Keep Educating, KNOWLEDGE is the POWER

03-30-2002, 06:37 AM	#3
bubbasr Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 126	I found that a day of rest in between workouts help to make you grow better. I agree with realdeal try everything see what works best for you,also for each workout change the way your set's rotate. Such as seated dumbell curl's/ ez bar curl's/ hammer curl's/ preacher curl's. The next time you do bi's change the order,this way the muscle will not get used to a routine. I also change my bi's and tri's routine up every other workout. Get into a lot of reading Flex/ Muscle and fitness/ Musclemag listen to the pro's. GOOD LUCK!!!!
	"Got MILK" Where's Your Mustache LOL

03-30-2002, 03:17 PM	#4
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	Best thing for arm growth........Squats and Deads!!! I believe that your arms will grow in proportion to your body, so make sure your working your WHOLE body not just your arms and chest. You should make sure you have the following in your arm workouts: BB curl Preacher curl Hammer curl Narrow grip bench skull crushers push downs You can do many variations of these using BB DB and cables, don't forget the Tri's make up 2/3 of your arm and YOU WON'T GROW WITHOUT PROPER REST AND DIET!!!!!
	Cool

03-30-2002, 03:53 PM	#5
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,523	See my routine in the "plateau" thread here in the training forum!
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. GOLIATH LABS Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

03-31-2002, 06:20 AM	#6
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Read fookin flex?!!!!! Read fookin M&F?!!!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to the pros?!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jay Cutler got big from switching things up?!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	Being held down by The Man

03-31-2002, 02:31 PM	#8
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Mr 'Pro seems to think i have a vendetta against him. Where, in this thread, have you made reference to pro BBers or any magazines? (except the above post) Exactly, you didn't. Hence, my post was not directed at you, although you should have corrected the lad by telling him that pros are predominatly clueless and that magazines won't aid you in getting big. (unless you do drugs). That is all.
	Being held down by The Man

03-31-2002, 03:53 PM	#9
tommyguns Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nj Posts: 21	I do train my whole body and in fact have competed in some local powerlifting events and even won a few. I just wanted to focus a little time and alot of effort on building my arms up. Dont let y age fool you, im very serious and dedicated, and i pretty much stick to the basics, i just want to change things around for a little bit
	If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got...go heavy or go home..there is NO substitute fo intensity!!!

03-31-2002, 04:34 PM	#10
sKullKnot Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3	bi's are for show tri's are for go

03-31-2002, 08:00 PM	#12
bubbasr Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 126	Gopro it was directed at me for saying to read alot and listen to Pro's. But you know what the more you read the more you learn and what works for one might not work for another. Why are we reading the post's on this site? For the heck of it or to learn more.
	"Got MILK" Where's Your Mustache LOL

04-01-2002, 08:28 AM	#14
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	I read the posts on this site to see how much i can annoy Mr 'Pro here. It's fun
	Being held down by The Man

04-01-2002, 11:35 AM	#16
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	I respect my elders. (it's just the old grandads that i mock muwhahahaha haha j/k ) btw, you're going for a pro card soon are you not?
	Being held down by The Man

04-02-2002, 05:18 AM	#18
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Good luck.
	Being held down by The Man

04-02-2002, 09:29 AM	#20
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	It was actually.
	Being held down by The Man

04-02-2002, 03:23 PM	#23
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	You've got to give me something to work with if you expect to be taken seriously. What part of Gopro's responses don't you agree with??? I think Gopro's advice is very sound, but I still take he and any others advice and make my own decisions. Just because Arnold or anyone else says something works or doesn't work doesn't make it law.
	Cool

04-02-2002, 04:27 PM	#24
ActionMatt Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Here Posts: 127	That's the whole point, Scotty. When he claims something like using various exercises to shape a muscle, its not law. However, I'm very willing to listen to anyone who can back up their ideas with proven science. Mr. 'Pro has chosen to disregard any scientifically-oriented argument for the "I am superior so I don't care what you say, listen to ME" argument. That does nothing to convince me, and it should do nothing to convince anyone.

04-02-2002, 07:17 PM	#25
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,981 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	Actually, gopro's argument is experience is more important than the scientific research you're reading in the books when it comes to bodybuilding.
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04-02-2002, 07:42 PM	#26
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,523	Ok Action Matt...I've got a couple of things to say to you... First to answer your question, no I do not train my athletes the same way I train my bodybuilders. Athletes have a whole other set of goals and require a different training strategy. I also do not train my elderly clients like my teens, or the women like the men, or a basketball player like a wrestler. Second...I have NEVER EVER said once ANYWHERE that I am better or superior to anyone else. I do not say listen to me and discount what everyone else says. All I do say is that I have taken a very long time to come to my methodolgy. I have dedicated the better part of my life to health/fitness/nutrition etc. I am willing to share what I have learned with anyone and everyone...even those I compete against. And if I did not know for sure whether what I say has worked wonders for me and my hundreds of clients over the years, than I WOULD NOT SAY IT! I will say it again. Science should not be ignored. Science has its place and I read all the journals just like you. But science will never replace REAL WORLD EVIDENCE and REAL WORLD RESULTS. If I wanted to visit the jungles of Africa, would I read a book on the subject...maybe, but then I'd hire an experienced guide, someone who has been there, experienced the sights, the smells...knows the dangers, what to look for, what to avoid...someone that can really SHOW ME THE WAY around in the safest, most efficient way possible! So, thats what I am...a guide...a pretty f'n big one!
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. GOLIATH LABS Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

04-02-2002, 10:01 PM	#27
tommyguns Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nj Posts: 21	School him Gopro. My science is studied in the trenches, under massive iron with sweat pouring like a fukin foutain. I try alot of different things, but what i've found is that the basics are the staples of bodybuilding, and those who forget about them learn the hard way. Thanks for all the great advice
	If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got...go heavy or go home..there is NO substitute fo intensity!!!