Bentover Barbell Row

garethhe · 11-26-2005, 11:40 AM

i'm considering making the bentover barbell row part of my back routine. it it recommended? i'm a bit concerned that it might be a high risk for injury. any thoughts?

and is this a good back routine?

wide-grip chinup
seated row
back extension
bentover dumbbell row
bentover barbel row

min0 lee · 11-26-2005, 11:50 AM

Bentovers are my favorite back exercise, I strongly recommend them to anyone.
But like any other lift you must do them with good form to avoid the risk of injury.

Theres no need to do bentover's twice.

luke69duke69 · 11-26-2005, 11:53 AM

I just tried them yesterday and the only thing I made sure of is what mino said, "Good form" I Was using like 135 on the barbell and probably could have done more weight, but I just slowed the rep down and focused on form and this morning I can definitely feel it in my shoulders, but I'm not all sore in my lower back. I haven't done those in years and before that was part of my problem was messin with too much weight and having bad form.

dougnukem · 11-26-2005, 11:54 AM

BB rows are great, IMO. As far as injuries go, stick with a light weight until you get the form down and are comfortable with the movement. You might want to move one of your bentover rows in the first half of your routine while you still have the most left in your tank. Maybe something like this:
Pullups
BB bentover rows
back extension
seated rows or DB bentover rows
Just something to consider...

garethhe · 11-26-2005, 11:57 AM

OK, sounds good, so I'm thinking:

wide-grip chinup
bentover dumbell OR barbell row
seated row
back extension

do you think 3 sets of 4-6 reps each are enough for this routine?

min0 lee · 11-26-2005, 12:03 PM

I prefer pullups over chinups for back, do you do deadlifts?

garethhe · 11-26-2005, 12:15 PM

actually, no, i haven't tried deadlifts yet. i've been too wary as it seemed a great way to break one's back.

dougnukem · 11-26-2005, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethhe

actually, no, i haven't tried deadlifts yet. i've been too wary as it seemed a great way to break one's back.

Oh, then you're missing out on a great exercise. It's like any other exercise, with proper form, you shouldn't have any problems. It can really benefit your back workout, as well as, your leg workout, depending on which type of deadlift you go with.

luke69duke69 · 11-26-2005, 12:32 PM

Take the barbell to one of the squat racks, and set it about two or three inches BELOW what your standing grip is with it in your hands. Once you set the heighth right on the barbell stands to hold it at that spot, put the bar back on the rack, put your weight on, trying something light to get your form, and try that. There's also using the smith machine and setting the bump stops just below what you would drop it at and doing them behind the back. Either is fine but the first method is probably easier to do first.

garethhe · 11-26-2005, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke69duke69

Take the barbell to one of the squat racks, and set it about two or three inches BELOW what your standing grip is with it in your hands. Once you set the heighth right on the barbell stands to hold it at that spot, put the bar back on the rack, put your weight on, trying something light to get your form, and try that.

are you describing a kind of bentover barbell row here?

**CowPimp** · 11-26-2005, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethhe

wide-grip chinup
bentover dumbell OR barbell row
seated row
back extension

do you think 3 sets of 4-6 reps each are enough for this routine?

If you use sufficient intensity, then that should be plenty of back work. Sounds almost like a Max-OT style workout.

luke69duke69 · 11-26-2005, 01:17 PM

I didn't think of it when I was typing but it would work for both Shrugs and Rows. You just want the bar a tad lower than where it is in your hands at the beginning of a set standing upright almost. so when you're finished you can just drop it onto the pegs. It's usually good to leave it a hair lower because by the end of some of your sets, the bar is gonna be lower in your grip than when you picked it up.

garethhe · 11-26-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowPimp

If you use sufficient intensity, then that should be plenty of back work. Sounds almost like a Max-OT style workout.

good eye, i was using that as a model

garethhe · 11-26-2005, 01:34 PM

thanks luke, i'll try it out exactly as you described this afternoon.

LAM · 11-26-2005, 03:05 PM

make sure to keep up with your stretching. bb rows hit the low back pretty darn hard. keeping this (and all muscles) flexible enables them to perform better

11-26-2005, 11:40 AM	#1
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	Bentover Barbell Row i'm considering making the bentover barbell row part of my back routine. it it recommended? i'm a bit concerned that it might be a high risk for injury. any thoughts? and is this a good back routine? wide-grip chinup seated row back extension bentover dumbbell row bentover barbel row

11-26-2005, 11:50 AM	#2
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,780 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	Bentovers are my favorite back exercise, I strongly recommend them to anyone. But like any other lift you must do them with good form to avoid the risk of injury. Theres no need to do bentover's twice.
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11-26-2005, 11:53 AM	#3
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	I just tried them yesterday and the only thing I made sure of is what mino said, "Good form" I Was using like 135 on the barbell and probably could have done more weight, but I just slowed the rep down and focused on form and this morning I can definitely feel it in my shoulders, but I'm not all sore in my lower back. I haven't done those in years and before that was part of my problem was messin with too much weight and having bad form.
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11-26-2005, 11:57 AM	#5
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	OK, sounds good, so I'm thinking: wide-grip chinup bentover dumbell OR barbell row seated row back extension do you think 3 sets of 4-6 reps each are enough for this routine? Last edited by garethhe : 11-26-2005 at 12:11 PM.

11-26-2005, 12:03 PM	#6
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,780 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	I prefer pullups over chinups for back, do you do deadlifts?
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11-26-2005, 11:54 AM	#4
dougnukem The American Dream Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL Posts: 1,802 Photos: 6	BB rows are great, IMO. As far as injuries go, stick with a light weight until you get the form down and are comfortable with the movement. You might want to move one of your bentover rows in the first half of your routine while you still have the most left in your tank. Maybe something like this: Pullups BB bentover rows back extension seated rows or DB bentover rows Just something to consider...

11-26-2005, 12:15 PM	#7
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	actually, no, i haven't tried deadlifts yet. i've been too wary as it seemed a great way to break one's back.

11-26-2005, 12:32 PM	#9
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	Take the barbell to one of the squat racks, and set it about two or three inches BELOW what your standing grip is with it in your hands. Once you set the heighth right on the barbell stands to hold it at that spot, put the bar back on the rack, put your weight on, trying something light to get your form, and try that. There's also using the smith machine and setting the bump stops just below what you would drop it at and doing them behind the back. Either is fine but the first method is probably easier to do first.
	"I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-26-2005, 01:17 PM	#12
luke69duke69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 478	I didn't think of it when I was typing but it would work for both Shrugs and Rows. You just want the bar a tad lower than where it is in your hands at the beginning of a set standing upright almost. so when you're finished you can just drop it onto the pegs. It's usually good to leave it a hair lower because by the end of some of your sets, the bar is gonna be lower in your grip than when you picked it up.
	"I may not be the best looking guy in the bar, but I'm the only one talking to you" - J King

11-26-2005, 01:34 PM	#14
garethhe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 280	thanks luke, i'll try it out exactly as you described this afternoon.

11-26-2005, 03:05 PM	#15
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	make sure to keep up with your stretching. bb rows hit the low back pretty darn hard. keeping this (and all muscles) flexible enables them to perform better
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