god hand

This is what I've been hearing and it makes sense. We all hear people say high reps build endurance, but think about it, if your doing your reps fast that's going to build up endurance more than muscle. Just my theory. Please dont get crazy.

muscle_01

i think its better to do super slower eps cause its harder and u will have much better form

Andy_Massaro

I agree

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pengers84

super slow reps works well for me!

TJ Cline

It is a good thing to do once and a while....but it is only a good change up from time to time.

garethhe

doing reps fast will build more muscle. here's why...

Newton's Second Law of Motion:
Force=Mass times Acceleration

take the same weight, and lift it faster, and you've got yourself more force

TJ Cline

I agree 23% Newton had huge muscles and was a big sports fitness guy

kicka19

ok tony little, Here is kickas law, do reps at your normal pace, fast reps lead to injury while slow reps can be a good change of pace if used seldomly, lifting is simple and everyone tried to make it hard

garethhe

a slight edit: i mean to say that faster reps will destroy more muscle tissue, as greater acceleration causes greater force...and destroying muscle tissue is what you need to do in the gym in order to build muscle outside of the gym.

god hand

But when doing this u are not controlling the weight during thr entire rep. It's like if bring the weight down on a BP rep real fast. Instead of u doing the work gravity is.

garethhe

you are right. when i said lift, i meant lift...as in going up.

kicka19

lifting is not simply going up, bring the weight down breaks more muscle fibers supposedly

garethhe

actually, that is the definition of lifting

kicka19

dude, you are a moron, so is a negative not lifting?

garethhe

to make a long story short, an explosive up movement breaks more muscle fibers than a slow and controlled up movement.

it is the opposite on the down movement: a slow, controlled down movement exerts more force on the muscle fibers than a fast down movement, since, as god hand pointed out, gravity does more of the work when you drop a weight quickly.

garethhe

that is correct, a negative is not lifting. and yes, i am a moron who is familiar with the meaning of everyday words, like "lift". look it up if you don't believe me.

TJ Cline

Post the studies to back up your silly opinions kid.

garethhe

no thank you. if you choose not to believe in physics, that is entirely up to you.

kicka19

when the word lifting is used in a BB forum it means exercising in a way to break muscle fibers, which in turn creates muscle growth. lifting does not mean pushing an objecting in the air as you may think. anyone wana back me up on this shit? this seems like a simple concept

kicka19

you do your "eplosive movements" on your 10 lbs inclines, send me the pictures of your torn pecs, ill masterbate to them

garethhe

your rhetorical skills are stunning in both elegance and effectiveness.

i am so flamed!

as for you, kicka19, i have no further interest in participating in a disagreement that has sunk to such a sad level. the purpose of this thread was to discuss whether or not super slow reps build muscle.

TJ Cline

I believe you are full of shit, and jumping on some bull shit band wagon.....with 0 evidence to back it up......as you have shown.....pathetic

garethhe

in order for me to go through the time and effort to prove that using the laws of physics are relevant to building muscle, i would have to care what you think.

Mudge

Endurance? How about altheticism and explosive power. I wasn't aware sprinters were endurance athletes.

Endurance is about slow and steady, I dont know where your theories come from bro.

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TJ Cline

The law of Physics has 0 to do with styles of weight lifting dummy....
Go sell your bull shit on another site troll.

Mudge

The negative is neccessary for the stretch reflex response, and a quick forcefull positive. The negative also destroys more of the muscle fiber than a positive.

I'm not sure if we are agreeing here or what.

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kicka19

I dont post with perfect grammer, i dont care, i post to learn information about "lifting" and to help others when i can. when you have years of lifting under your belt come back and talk to all of us like you know something, before that you can sit back and learn alot, look around your gym, how many big strong guys are throwing wieghts around real fast? probably none, your see some lil 15 year old kids not knowing what there doing doen that, my guess is thats you

garethhe

we are in agreement. at no point did i mean to imply that the negative is unneccessary. i've already said here that the down portion is also relevant for tearing muscle fiber.