Belt Squats

Zac_Champigny · 12-16-2005, 03:15 PM

I was reading on a site that if you have back issues, belt squats are a great way to still be able to squat. Using google.com however, I could not find images showing how to perform the excersize. Does anyone know where I could find a walkthrough. Also, is this excersize a good one?

The13ig13adWolf · 12-16-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zac_Champigny

I was reading on a site that if you have back issues, belt squats are a great way to still be able to squat. Using google.com however, I could not find images showing how to perform the excersize. Does anyone know where I could find a walkthrough. Also, is this excersize a good one?

what kind of back issues do you have? NOT using a belt will actually help to strengthen it in many cases.

Zac_Champigny · 12-16-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

what kind of back issues do you have? NOT using a belt will actually help to strengthen it.

My L5S1 disk is out of place. It is called Spondliothesis. I also have Scoliosis. My orthopedist told me basically never to put direct pressure on my spine doing excersizes like squats. This belt concept sounds like it could solve alot of problems for me.

The13ig13adWolf · 12-16-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zac_Champigny

My L5S1 disk is out of place. It is called Spondliothesis. I also have Scoliosis. My orthopedist told me basically never to put direct pressure on my spine doing excersizes like squats. This belt concept sounds like it could solve alot of problems for me.

i am no doctor. being that you're seeing an orthopedist, have you asked him for his thoughts? you could always get a second opinion but you don't want to cause any further damage so i wouldn't go trying things out that you read on the net without clearance.

Thunder · 12-16-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

what kind of back issues do you have? NOT using a belt will actually help to strengthen it in many cases.

I don't think he's referring to using a belt while lifting, but to an exercise called Hip Belt Squats.

Zac_Champigny · 12-16-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

i am no doctor. being that you're seeing an orthopedist, have you asked him for his thoughts? you could always get a second opinion but you don't want to cause any further damage so i wouldn't go trying things out that you read on the net without clearance.

When I read about this belt squat, it said it was perfect for people with lower back problems becuase it does not stress your spine. I'm gonna GUESS that you puta belt around your waste and do squats like that. I'm just looking for someone who could give me a more accurate portrayal of how to do the excersize. I'll be able to tell right away by looking at it if it will bother my back. The orthopedist gave me an outline, but I basically know whats gonna hurt me or not.

Stu · 12-16-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zac_Champigny

My L5S1 disk is out of place. It is called Spondliothesis. I also have Scoliosis. My orthopedist told me basically never to put direct pressure on my spine doing excersizes like squats. This belt concept sounds like it could solve alot of problems for me.

well theres you're answer, your spines a pretty major part of your body, is it really worth risking?

Thunder · 12-16-2005, 03:41 PM

From an article ...

First, place two flat exercise benches to form a V-shaped configuration. When seen from above, the benches should be spaced far enough apart at the opened end of the "V" to accommodate the width of your selected squatting stance.

Next, place a sturdy chair or box midway between these benches. This will serve as your loading platform for the weight you'll be using. Choose the heavy dumbbell or barbell plate you intend to use and place it on the makeshift loading platform.

The combined height of the loading platform and the dumbbell should approximate knee height when you're standing on the benches.

Next, step up and take a moderately wide stance of 18 to 24 inches astride the flat exercise benches and directly over the loading platform. The exact width between your foot placement is your decision. You must feel comfortable and safe. Position the *hip belt around the top of your hips and glutes. Attach a barbell plate or dumbbell to the hip-belt chain, positioning the weight so it fits snugly but comfortably near your crotch. Now come to an upright position, lifting the dumbbell off the loading platform. Have a spotter remove the loading platform.

Laterally rotate your feet out 45 degrees from parallel. The subtle action of rotating the feet out when combined with an 18 to 24 inch heel-to-heel stance will place stress on the outer edge of the foot where the power is, rather than on the weaker inner side of the foot.

Your body should be in an upright position where the shoulders and hip joints are in alignment. Never bow or hump your back so as to collapse your chest. If you do, your balance and weight will shift to your heels and put more tension on the spinae erector muscles, which is a problem associated with many thigh and back exercises, but not with the hip belt squat. So why mention it, Yukon Boy? Because I want you to get into the habit of always assuming a *flat-back position with a slight inward arch in your lumbar region.

Keeping your chin high and parallel to the floor will help your center of balance.

The13ig13adWolf · 12-16-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder

I don't think he's referring to using a belt while lifting, but to an exercise called Hip Belt Squats.

whoops. my misunderstanding...

Zac_Champigny · 12-16-2005, 06:02 PM

Thank you Thunder.

And Stu, I know what I'de be risking and that is why i don't do real squats. I am looking for leg excersizes that do not put pressure on my spine, and this sounded like one of them.

Thermal2 · 12-16-2005, 09:41 PM

that would be a great excerise, kinda takes the weight off your shoulders and spine and places it on your hips. there is a machine, like explained above, it is a platform with a cable in the middle of it coming out of the floor. there is a padded belt that clips onto this cable and you squat with the cable between your legs and the belt on. jsut make sure you arent hunched over too much. keep that curve in yuor back with your head up. any discomfort "common sense" stop. you know your body. best of luck finding a hip squat machine. I know of one in Warwick RI. Giddy Up.

BUFFALO...

Thermal2 · 12-16-2005, 09:42 PM

AND NO THE hell you didnt take p-funks saying and make it your sig, SUCH AS I HAVE!! unfortunatly I have had it first, and you know what they say." I get it"

Zac_Champigny · 12-17-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Thermal2

AND NO THE hell you didnt take p-funks saying and make it your sig, SUCH AS I HAVE!! unfortunatly I have had it first, and you know what they say." I get it"

I had it one post after he posted what he had said. I don't know how either one of us can prove who had it first, so Mines stayin =-P

**P-funk** · 12-17-2005, 07:11 AM

if you are interested. They sell hip belts at ironmind.com

I would go to a sports medecine doctor to get your opinion on training. That and a phyiscal therapist or orthopedist that specializes in this type of thing. My guess would be that your doctor doesn't know much about weightlifting or what it is you are trying to do. In general primary care physicians don't know jack about weight training and it is much easier for them to say "just stop doing it" instead of trying to learn. Go to a specialist and laern more about your problem.

Zac_Champigny · 12-17-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

if you are interested. They sell hip belts at ironmind.com

I would go to a sports medecine doctor to get your opinion on training. That and a phyiscal therapist or orthopedist that specializes in this type of thing. My guess would be that your doctor doesn't know much about weightlifting or what it is you are trying to do. In general primary care physicians don't know jack about weight training and it is much easier for them to say "just stop doing it" instead of trying to learn. Go to a specialist and laern more about your problem.

He is bassically the best child orthopedist in the state of massachusetts. When I've gone to physical therapists, they have all just been like, "well what did your orthopedist say". My actual primary care physician was like OMG DON'T EVER DO ANOTHER ATHLETIC THING AS LONG AS YOU LIVE. So yeah, the orthopedist had a pretty good idea of what he was saying.

**P-funk** · 12-17-2005, 03:59 PM

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My actual primary care physician was like OMG DON'T EVER DO ANOTHER ATHLETIC THING AS LONG AS YOU LIVE

lol, exactly.

12-16-2005, 03:15 PM	#1
Zac_Champigny Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lynn, MA Posts: 89	Belt Squats I was reading on a site that if you have back issues, belt squats are a great way to still be able to squat. Using google.com however, I could not find images showing how to perform the excersize. Does anyone know where I could find a walkthrough. Also, is this excersize a good one?
	"my thought is you are to fixated on your BW. WHo the fuck cares if you gained water weight? Quit being such a pussy. I swear to god, the guys on this site that post in the diet forum are like bitches...."eek...I gained 3lbs overnight". Shut the fuck up. Eat food and pick heavy shit up and quit being a pussy. Are you a man or a chick?" - P-funk My Journal. Please do not post. Doing so forces me to actually work.

12-16-2005, 06:02 PM	#10
Zac_Champigny Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lynn, MA Posts: 89	Thank you Thunder. And Stu, I know what I'de be risking and that is why i don't do real squats. I am looking for leg excersizes that do not put pressure on my spine, and this sounded like one of them.
	"my thought is you are to fixated on your BW. WHo the fuck cares if you gained water weight? Quit being such a pussy. I swear to god, the guys on this site that post in the diet forum are like bitches...."eek...I gained 3lbs overnight". Shut the fuck up. Eat food and pick heavy shit up and quit being a pussy. Are you a man or a chick?" - P-funk My Journal. Please do not post. Doing so forces me to actually work.

12-16-2005, 09:41 PM	#11
Thermal2 Buffalo Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 173 Photos: 2	that would be a great excerise, kinda takes the weight off your shoulders and spine and places it on your hips. there is a machine, like explained above, it is a platform with a cable in the middle of it coming out of the floor. there is a padded belt that clips onto this cable and you squat with the cable between your legs and the belt on. jsut make sure you arent hunched over too much. keep that curve in yuor back with your head up. any discomfort "common sense" stop. you know your body. best of luck finding a hip squat machine. I know of one in Warwick RI. Giddy Up. BUFFALO...
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12-16-2005, 09:42 PM	#12
Thermal2 Buffalo Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 173 Photos: 2	AND NO THE hell you didnt take p-funks saying and make it your sig, SUCH AS I HAVE!! unfortunatly I have had it first, and you know what they say." I get it"
	Write that Down..

12-17-2005, 07:11 AM	#14
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,625	if you are interested. They sell hip belts at ironmind.com I would go to a sports medecine doctor to get your opinion on training. That and a phyiscal therapist or orthopedist that specializes in this type of thing. My guess would be that your doctor doesn't know much about weightlifting or what it is you are trying to do. In general primary care physicians don't know jack about weight training and it is much easier for them to say "just stop doing it" instead of trying to learn. Go to a specialist and laern more about your problem.
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12-16-2005, 03:41 PM	#8
Thunder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 132	From an article ... First, place two flat exercise benches to form a V-shaped configuration. When seen from above, the benches should be spaced far enough apart at the opened end of the "V" to accommodate the width of your selected squatting stance. Next, place a sturdy chair or box midway between these benches. This will serve as your loading platform for the weight you'll be using. Choose the heavy dumbbell or barbell plate you intend to use and place it on the makeshift loading platform. The combined height of the loading platform and the dumbbell should approximate knee height when you're standing on the benches. Next, step up and take a moderately wide stance of 18 to 24 inches astride the flat exercise benches and directly over the loading platform. The exact width between your foot placement is your decision. You must feel comfortable and safe. Position the hip belt around the top of your hips and glutes. Attach a barbell plate or dumbbell to the hip-belt chain, positioning the weight so it fits snugly but comfortably near your crotch. Now come to an upright position, lifting the dumbbell off the loading platform. Have a spotter remove the loading platform. Laterally rotate your feet out 45 degrees from parallel. The subtle action of rotating the feet out when combined with an 18 to 24 inch heel-to-heel stance will place stress on the outer edge of the foot where the power is, rather than on the weaker inner side of the foot. Your body should be in an upright position where the shoulders and hip joints are in alignment. Never bow or hump your back so as to collapse your chest. If you do, your balance and weight will shift to your heels and put more tension on the spinae erector muscles, which is a problem associated with many thigh and back exercises, but not with the hip belt squat. So why mention it, Yukon Boy? Because I want you to get into the habit of always assuming a flat-back position with a slight inward arch in your lumbar region. Keeping your chin high and parallel to the floor will help your center of balance.

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