Incorporating Plyometrics into W/O

**P-funk** · 12-27-2005, 04:52 AM

provided that you perform your exercises correctly and don't do anything stupid then no....exercise will not stunt your growth. It just doesn't happen.

Saying that the "doctor told you" you were supposed to be taller is probably the worst argument you can make. Doctors can't make a 100% assumption on things like that. I have size 11.5 feet. According to my doctors when I was younger and in high school I was "supposed" to hit a bit growth spurt and shoot up. Well, I am 26yrs old, 5'5" and still waiting for my growth spurt. Guess what? It isn't coming! They looked at some of my chararcteristics and they made and assumption....sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't pan out. It has nothing to do with stunting growth. Try and find someone that had broken a epyphiseal growth plate in their younger years and you will see what stunted growth looks like. It isn't just a matter of being shorter. I train a guy that had shattered his growth plate in his elbow at the age of 12. His arm was (still is) frozen at a 90 degree angle (since back then they didn't have the surgey to repair it like they do now). His arm looks normal at a glance but if you look closer you can see that it is, aside from being locked in the 90 degree position) still under developed to a certain extent.

**Rocco32** · 12-27-2005, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

There are numerous studies that show it can stunt growth. NUMEROUS... I don't need to post one. I am speaking from personal experience.
Anyway on this I'd follow what a doctor has to say. Hopefully he knows what he's talking about. There's an idea, ask your doctor...

I think your speaking from your ass.

I've worked with many doctors and not one of them believes the whole lifting weight stunts growth because it's not true. You must have an old shithead for a doc.

**Dale Mabry** · 12-27-2005, 08:39 AM

It's a myth, based off the assumption that weightlifting increases test output, and therefore may lead to you growth plates fusing early. Doesn't happen, you need more test released than what training will give, which is why juicing at an early age CAN lead to stunted growth.

**Dale Mabry** · 12-27-2005, 08:41 AM

BTW, to answer your question, I would build more strength as CowPimp said. After a couple of months you can add in Plyos on off days or do them at the beginning of upper body day.

**Andy_Massaro** · 12-27-2005, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

BTW, to answer your question, I would build more strength as CowPimp said. After a couple of months you can add in Plyos on off days or do them at the beginning of upper body day.

alright thanks for sticking to the topic man..

but as for the "stunted growth" debate.. I don't believe this guy has enough information to support his argument, therefore I will continue to weightlift, with proper form of course..

thanks guys

**SuperFlex** · 12-27-2005, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Andy_Massaro

cowpiamp owned you lawl

He's a cow. He didn't own shit...

Ask a doctor. My only advice on that. I may be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time. Nevertheless that's my experience and a DOCTOR's words...

**SuperFlex** · 12-27-2005, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by P-funk

Doctors can't make a 100% assumption on things like that. I have size 11.5 feet. According to my doctors when I was younger and in high school I was "supposed" to hit a bit growth spurt and shoot up. Well, I am 26yrs old, 5'5" and still waiting for my growth spurt. Guess what? It isn't coming!

Because you lifted weights...

**SuperFlex** · 12-27-2005, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Andy_Massaro

alright thanks for sticking to the topic man..

but as for the "stunted growth" debate.. I don't believe this guy has enough information to support his argument, therefore I will continue to weightlift, with proper form of course..

thanks guys

I'm smart. They're all dummies...

**SuperFlex** · 12-27-2005, 10:57 PM

OK all I'm finding on the net says weight lifting WILL NOT stunt your growth. But they're still dummies...

As I said though bud, that's according to a doctor...

**Andy_Massaro** · 12-27-2005, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

OK all I'm finding on the net says weight lifting WILL NOT stunt your growth. But they're still dummies...

As I said though bud, that's according to a doctor...

some doctors have fake degrees

heh

**Dale Mabry** · 12-28-2005, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by SuperFlex

As I said though bud, that's according to a doctor...

Ask the Doctor why it stunts growth.

**CowPimp** · 12-28-2005, 08:34 AM

If you hurt yourself due to improper form and end up damaging an epiphyseal growth plate, then yes, it can stunt the growth of the bone in quesiton. Just be smart about it.

Oh yeah, and regarding asking your doctor about this, the American Pediatric Society (Comprised of countless pediatricians) recommends resistance training take place as early as age 7. The intensity just needs to be limited, and proper supervision should be in place to insure proper form and an injury free training career during those early years.

**P-funk** · 12-28-2005, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by CowPimp

If you hurt yourself due to improper form and end up damaging an epiphyseal growth plate, then yes, it can stunt the growth of the bone in quesiton. Just be smart about it.

Oh yeah, and regarding asking your doctor about this, the American Pediatric Society (Comprised of countless pediatricians) recommends resistance training take place as early as age 7. The intensity just needs to be limited, and proper supervision should be in place to insure proper form and an injury free training career during those early years.

yes, even in the NSCA book they talk about pre-pubecent children training since their growth plates aren't developing at that age and they aren't producing hormones they are at less of a risk with training. Intensity just has to be monitored and exercise form is everything.

I look at it like this.....

If a child is already participating in athletic sports then why shouldn't they be weight training? The stress being placed on the body just from doing simple things like running or jumping (like is basketball) is going to place a great demand on the muscles, bones and conective tissue. The big thing about children and athletics is that the intensity is always 100%. There is no way to hone it down. if you get in a collision physiscs is an unforgiving thing. the bigger kid or the kid with the better angle will always cause harm to the person they are colliding with. Plain and simple. However, in the weight room , under proper guidance of a coach, intensity can be monitored and brought down to a level that the child is able to work at safety and effeciently. if all you can do is squat with a brookm stick on your back at the age of 10 well then guess what we are doing in the weight room....squatting with a broom stick on your back, with perfect form and slowing working the intensity up as you get more comfortable. The intensity in the weight room can be changed. The intensity on the field can not.

**Andy_Massaro** · 12-28-2005, 12:46 PM

good point there p-funk

**Dale Mabry** · 12-28-2005, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by P-funk

yes, even in the NSCA book they talk about pre-pubecent children training since their growth plates aren't developing at that age and they aren't producing hormones they are at less of a risk with training. Intensity just has to be monitored and exercise form is everything.

They also make a point of saying that kids in puberty are at an increased risk of injury because they are growing so quickly and imbalances are emerging. If they are growing so quickly their growth isn't really being stunted.

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