Thread: Before or After

Which do you prefer?

There's several ways in which you can look at this.

When you wake up you've been essentially "fasting" for several hours (hopefully at least eight hours). It's this time when hGH is at a high point. HIIT is anaerobic. The body uses glucose for this bioenergetic pathway(as it does with all short, intense bursts of activity - just like resistance training), therefore you could say that taking in carbs (and maybe some protein) before doing HIIT would be beneficial. By doing this, however, you allow sugar into the blood stream and suppress the hGH (and any further hGH pulsing releases). This means that you have glucose to use for the cardio. Also by doing this you reduce the chances of the body using bodyfat for fuel. However, if you didn;t eat before HIIT then there's the chance that your body would catabolise muscle proteins for a source of glucose, but you'd still maximise hGH releases and this would mean that bodyfat would be tapped into if necessary (unless you still have blood sugar). Not to mention the fact that anaerobic training alters your hormonal status so much that the "rebound" of the anabolic hormones after training would be greater than your original anabolic standing before you did the cardio.

If you did say 30 minutes of aerobic training like jogging: and ate some carbs (and maybe some protein) then you'd stop hGH and put sugar into the blood stream. Whereas HIIT elevates metabolism and puts your hormonal status more geared into muscle building and fat burning for hours after the initial cardio, aerobic activity burns more fat during the exercise. If you eat carbs before doing 30 minutes jogging then you're gonna have to burn through them before you tap into bodyfat stores. if you don;t eat before training then there's an elevated chance of muscle catabolism due to duration of activity and the fact that you don;t kick start any real anbolism after training.

Now all this is not to say that aerobic is bad, cause it is superior as far as cardiovascular (heart) conditioning goes and it does have it's place - it's also less stressful on the nervous sytem.

So what's my take? I refer you back to my original answer: "Which do you prefer?" haha.

Seriously tho, i'd say HIIT in the morning on empty stomach.

If you wanna do heart conditioning then save it till later in the day when you got some food in your stomach - just don;t use aerobic training for fat loss purposes - but you can use it to create a larger calorie deficit if that's what is warranted.

Wow, that has to be one of the most informative posts I've read. Thanx bud After reading that I'm starting to think that maybe I'll just have a glass of milk about 15 minutes before I run. What do you think?

I still think that would be too much, IT.........

I always do my cardio at 0530hrs on an empty stomach.....
Then sht,shower & shave......then I hit the egg whites.......

I used to do cardio 6-days per week, but have since backed down to only 3......

You don't want to burn that muscle.

Very simple...when trying to get ripped do your cardio first thing in the morning on an EMPTY stomach. I've gotten ready for dozens of contests and trained people for dozens more, and in every case, empty tummy cardio has produced the very best results!

But what about lifting in the early morning? Is that best to do on an empty stomach as well?

I couldn't lift intensely on an empty stomach.

Originally posted by Miss LeDix
But what about lifting in the early morning? Is that best to do on an empty stomach as well?

No, this is not beneficial. Your goal with cardio is to liberate body fat stores which is best done in a state of low blood sugar. Trying to do this while lifting weights would be counter productive, since it is an anaerobic activity relying mostly on "sugar" as an energy source.

AFTER.

Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
AFTER.

After what? Sex? Being that you are a former porn star, lol.

Thank you all very much for your input. I'll do my morning run on empty from now on, you guys are great

IT, if you start getting light headed and pass out, it's not my fault.

Eat 30-40 minutes after cardio

Originally posted by IPMC
IT, if you start getting light headed and pass out, it's not my fault.

I know, it's the alcohol from the night before's fault

Originally posted by IPMC I always do my cardio at 0530hrs

When?

Originally posted by ALBOB


When?

If anyone would know, it's you........don't play that homie.

Originally posted by IPMC If anyone would know, it's you

Therein lies the joke.

Originally posted by ALBOB


Therein lies the joke.

I see said the blind man

Sorry bud, That was a pretty lame joke. Even for a Kane Vicious standard. Well, at least you got all the spelling correctly.

Originally posted by irontime Well, at least you got all the spelling correctly .

Yeah, coming from you that means a lot......................NOT!

And I'll have you know that was a VERY good joke. You're just too dense to understand subtle humor.

Originally posted by irontime
Sorry bud, That was a pretty lame joke. Even for a Kane Vicious standard. Well, at least you got all the spelling correctly.

HEY, Kane is your boy not mine............

Sorry IPMC, that last comment landed about 10 feet away from me

Originally posted by IPMC
HEY, Kane is your boy not mine............

Hmmmm............An evil ........ despicable ........ dastardly ........... disgusting plan is starting to take shape ..................... Irontime ............. Kane ............... Irontime+Kane ........... OK boy, here's the deal. You be a good little biatch and we wont' trash you to within an inch of your life. Got it?

By the way, check your regular e-mail.

Originally posted by ALBOB
And I'll have you know that was a VERY good joke. You're just too dense to understand subtle humor.

Right back at ya. I was implying that he never spells a damn thing right in order to make a funny, but you ruined it. Just like you ruin everything! sniff

Originally posted by ALBOB
By the way, check your regular e-mail.

I did, and replied back at ya.

Originally posted by ALBOB
By the way, check your regular e-mail.

Why do I have that chill feeling whenever something wrong is about to happen?

After reading IPMC's statement, i'm starting to clue in that you weren't talking to me to check my E-mail. oops

Originally posted by IPMC
I did, and replied back at ya.

I knew I should have specified, I sent the same thing to Irontime.

Yes IT, you're right to be afraid. Be VERY afraid.

And while I've got you, who were you calling a lame jokester? My reply was in self defense thinking I was under attack. If you were slamming IPMC, carry on.