It's been a while since I've done them with any kind of significant weight, but they certainly give it to ya good.
does anyone do them? I just tried them today after not doing them for a long time, and man, they kicked my ass. I was doing sets of 6. 1 rep would be me cleaning it to my upper chest pressing it, then returning to the floor. 6 reps seemed plenty for a set.
It's been a while since I've done them with any kind of significant weight, but they certainly give it to ya good.
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I want to master the move, I would hate to make myself look like a fool or hurt myself.Originally Posted by swordfish
on which day would it be optimal to implement it though?
it used to be one of my favorite lifts when i lifted after school in the offseason.... i never really got back into it though after designing a split....
recalling on doing them, i remember feeling sore the next day mainly in my traps, shoulders, and upper hams/lower glutes
awesome exercise though...... gets those hips goin strong... real good
oly lifts are typically done with higher intensities and lower reps, 1-3, this is of course after you have mastered the move. if you're doing the lifts with horrible form, like a reverse curl or upright row etc, they are pretty useless. when doing them i would put them in on a leg day since hip/knee extension plays such a central role in the lift as a whole, i would also make them the first exercise for obvious reasons.
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I do clean and jerks, pretty much the same thing. I would put them on leg day. If done correctly the momentium from the lift comes from the legs and core.
I just did them as part of my shoulder workout, my shoulders are sore today. ouch..
They shouldn't be much of a shoulder exercise, if anything on your upper body hurts it should be your traps.
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They work your shoulders plently.Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
If you do them wrong they do. There would be mild stimulation if doing a push press as opposed to a push jerk, but it is still only a half press with the shoulder, and the bar is already moving when the shoulders come into play.
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The static hold in the top position works them. Not the best shoulder exercise you can do though.Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
I would think an isometric contraction at the top of a movement wouldn't lead to much soreness. Maybe if you hadn't worked shoulders in a very long time, but I doubt it. If his shoulders are sore he is probably lifting with them, which is a problem with form.
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We're talking a clean and press here, not a C&J. I believe he is referring to a strict press, not a jerk or push press of some kind.
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I usually see a Clean & Press performed from a hang (Power Clean)
If you are pulling it from the floor, you almost have to bring it to the
chest to front squat it... - Then the natural tendency would be to push press
it using the legs... - but I suppose it could be strict pressed
(It just wouldn't be any fun)
Trash that gay routine and do the full "Power Clean & Squat Jerk"
Do we have any training vid from the "Amazing Lifts" thread of
a good "Power Clean & Squat Jerk"??
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I would think a strict press from the rack position would have to be done with a weight much lighter than one could clean. Wouldn't make much sense to do it that way.
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I agree...Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
strict press = GHEY -![]()
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I wouldn't put strict press and BigDyl in the same category.
As long as they are doing correct form with the clean I see no problem in it. I suppose they could be cleaning for power and pressing for strength. My bet is that the person wouldn't be racking the weight across their shoulders with upper arms parallel to the ground. I surmise this because that is the way I used to do it eons ago.![]()
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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man
in my last workout I put up zhang from china doing a sweet as squat jerk. Also, Dimas did power jerks (occationally, like to win his 2nd gold medal, he did go all the way into a squat just to "seal the deal").
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