Thread: Pair up shoulders with chest?

Thats my exact workout but I'm changing it tp this

Chest/Tricep
Back/Bicep
rest....cardio
Legs
shoulders/Traps
rest
rest.....cardio

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Thats my exact workout but I'm changing it tp this

Chest/Tricep
Back/Bicep
rest....cardio
Legs
shoulders/Traps
rest
rest.....cardio

Legs??????

Originally Posted by MyK

Legs??????

look again

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

look again

I think Im still drunk!

Originally Posted by rzieba

I've been training

Chest/Shoulders/Tris

Back/Traps/Bis

Legs/Abs

Would it be better to train shoulders on a different day? After I hit my chest I don't have much strength left for shoulder exercises.

Try this:
Chest/Biceps/Abs (works entire arm hard and without much fatigue)
Legs/Calves
Back/Delts/Triceps (ditto)

You could also leave delts with chest but don't worry so much about heavy presses. Do your laterals etc. first then press for a pre-exhaust type workout or more for blood pump... They WILL grow and get stronger!

You could also go this way:
Chest/Back
Legs/Calves
Delts/Triceps/Biceps

thanks for the suggestions.

Chest/Triceps or Chest/Shoulders is ok, but I find trying to do Chest/Tris/Shoulders makes either the tris or shoulders suffer a bad workout due to fatigue.

Originally Posted by rzieba

After I hit my chest I don't have much strength left for shoulder exercises.

I paired up chest with shoulders for some time, and I hated it for that very reason.

So alternate... Start with overhead pressing one day and flat pressing movements another.

I pair them up every other week. The other weeks I dedicate one day to shoulders.

I do chest and shoulders about 4 days apart in my training split.

I pair them up like this...
chest/shoulders/tris
quads/hams/calves
back/biceps

don't know if that helps or not....

I usually say to try it. If it works, keep it. If it doesn't work, change it. Give it a good four weeks or so though.

I say pair them up. I've always sworn by the classic legs/push/pull split.

That is the Legs, Chest/Shoulders/Triceps, Back/Biceps workout. I also throw abs in with the leg workout, and once in a while some direct forearm work with the back workout.

The main argument against this split is that by the time the lifter gets to their arm workout, the triceps and biceps have already been fatigued from the heavy chest and back work.

I think the important thing to realize is that big arms are more a product of chest and back work than they are of direct arm movements anyway. You aren't going to find 18 inch arms on a 160 pound bodybuilder. Big, basic compound movements are the best way to accomplish total body growth, and I think the importance of direct arm movements is typically overexaggerated. I usually perform 2-3 sets of direct arm movements (2-3 for biceps and 2-3 for triceps) and have seen consistent, steady growth in my arms over the years.

The great thing about this split is that it almost completely eliminates overlap. I'm a firm believer in intense, infrequent workouts (hitting each muscle once per week) and I think the legs/push/pull split does a perfect job of allowing for maximum recovery and growth by training the pushing and pulling systems exclusively.

That's my take anyway.