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    New routine...I feel like a noob LOL

    Heya guys been a long time since I've been around since my injury. I didn't browse the forums as much as I use to once I hurt my shoulder but now I'm back!

    Just for the record I tore my left cuff almost a year ago....it took about 4 months before I could even get back to lifting then took it super easy! I never really lifted overly heavy on much but was still working out. Got to about 90% and have been there since I'd say. Every now and again I do something wrong and be a little sore but never a full blown injury again.

    I bulked all summer, fall, winter and hit 215lbs still pretty lean then got deathly sick for a few months. Pneumonia and shit wasn't nice! So I have just been starting to get back into and recomp my body but I plan on bulking again very soon.

    For the past oh maybe 2 years I've been doing p/rr/s and love it but was looking to get into something like max-ot. But as I look through everything they have written its nothing to special. Just seems to be low volume, high intensity bringing muscle to failure, staying in the 4-6 rep range but nothing much else to it. I don't like that fact he rotates alot of exercise I like to keep as a staple such as deadlifts and also how he keeps changing all the workout days....I have to keep certain body parts at certain times of the week due to my job.

    So my main question is should I just set up 3 different routines for like the next 3 months, keep it low volume, stay in the 4-6 rep range, and follow those 3 basic principles? Or should I do something more cyclical? C'mon guys help me out here been a while since I've lifted heavy so want some ideas!!

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    I remember some of your posts from when I was first posting here. Nice to have you back if I do say so myself.

    I have similar preferences: I like keeping certain staples in my workouts at all times because I consider certain exercises to be of utmost importance. Without them, I would fall apart. Personally I have even lower volume when going for strength. Recently I've been doing 3x3 (warm up w/about 60% of working set weight), 3x2 (working sets w/90%+ of 1RM). This has brought me very good gains, and hopefully it's not just from blind luck and being young. However, I've been using a more progressive warm up for things like deadlifts when I go heavy, such as 1x6 (135), 1x4 (225), 1x3 (315), 1x1 (385), 1x1 (415) or something like that. I just thought it would be a good idea because at times it didn't seem like the 3x3 was enough of a warm up. Obviously this will differ with different people.

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    I'm more of a fan of periodizing intensity, but Max-OT is okay for a bit if you would like to try it. It's not really groundbreaking stuff, but you should see some results.
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    Eh, just getting done with a max-ot routine. Probably the worst routine I've done in years. The problem is, apparently your body adapts to the 4-6 rep range faster than any rep range. I stopped seeing gains after a few weeks.

    I'd recommend trying something different... or if you do Max-OT, switch it up with a different rep scheme every couple weeks.

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    Yea I tried something like max-ot a long time ago and found I adapted to the 4-6 rep range rather quickly and progress slowed down alot. I was so use to using p/rr/s that any time I go to a new routine without something always changing I feel I adapt pretty fast. I like to keep changing it up ya know.

    Pimp so what would you recomend? Somethign like:
    3-4 weeks @ 10rm
    3-4 weeks @ 5rm
    3-4 weeks @ 2-3rm

    8-12 working sets depending on size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBolt
    Yea I tried something like max-ot a long time ago and found I adapted to the 4-6 rep range rather quickly and progress slowed down alot. I was so use to using p/rr/s that any time I go to a new routine without something always changing I feel I adapt pretty fast. I like to keep changing it up ya know.

    Pimp so what would you recomend? Somethign like:
    3-4 weeks @ 10rm
    3-4 weeks @ 5rm
    3-4 weeks @ 2-3rm

    8-12 working sets depending on size?
    yea thats cool, whatever keeps you from going stale. you can also do heavy/light workouts, i believe thats called undulating periodization.

    also remember that loading parameters are only one variable you can change, there is also volume, frequency, density, exercises and more stuff i'm probably forgetting. we've talked a lot on here about periodization, and i'm sure in pat's journal there are lots of examples of periodizing training.
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    nice to you around here btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanick
    nice to you around here btw
    Thanks bud....its good to be back! So many new faces though its crazy heh!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBolt
    Thanks bud....its good to be back! So many new faces though its crazy heh!!
    yea and they all have more posts than me damn open chat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanick
    yea and they all have more posts than me damn open chat

    maybe if you worked out and showed up here to grace us with your pressence and knowledge once in a while you would have more posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    maybe if you worked out and showed up here to grace us with your pressence and knowledge once in a while you would have more posts.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but if he graced us with his knowledge, wouldn't that just up his post count by 1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    maybe if you worked out and showed up here to grace us with your pressence and knowledge once in a while you would have more posts.
    new year, new goals, new opportunities bro

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
    Correct me if I am wrong, but if he graced us with his knowledge, wouldn't that just up his post count by 1?
    you insult me! all my knowledge would fit atleast...3 times as many!
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    i am/was in a very similair situation - got sick for 9 months and am getting back in the game. I opted for a mix between the prs and periodization scheme.... month one i had a rep scheme going on a push pull legs split. where i did lowered weights with concentration on negatives. then the next month i raised the weight and dropped from 10-12 reps to 6-10 suppersetting core lifts. now, in my third month im focusing on power and strength in the 1-5 rep range with very heavy weights.


    Good luck- with a little determination and a good diet, you will get back where you were in no time at all, almost regardless of which training scheme you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBolt
    Yea I tried something like max-ot a long time ago and found I adapted to the 4-6 rep range rather quickly and progress slowed down alot. I was so use to using p/rr/s that any time I go to a new routine without something always changing I feel I adapt pretty fast. I like to keep changing it up ya know.

    Pimp so what would you recomend? Somethign like:
    3-4 weeks @ 10rm
    3-4 weeks @ 5rm
    3-4 weeks @ 2-3rm

    8-12 working sets depending on size?
    That's a linear periodization scheme, which would work just fine. Some powerlifters like that type of periodization, one being the big and bag Ed Coan.
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    Heya everyonethanks for the kinds words! Its great ot be back!

    Sox-yes this is true I have been using prrs for somewhere around 2 years now on and off and I love it. Iwas just curious what else may be out there ya know!

    Pimp-Yea I forget where I found that probably from one of my college courses or some shit but i have heard thats a big thing with powerlifting.

    We'll just have to see what I like the best heh.

    Thanks again everyone!
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