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    Thumbs up shoulder thickness

    hi fellas, i was wondering if you guys could give me an intermediate- advanced shoulder routine i have been training for a 2 years now and my shoulders have gotten very wide and thick but not enough thickness in comparrison with the width of my shoulders. If a few of you could give me maybe a good routine to get a lot of thickness so that when i stand front on my shoulders look good and thick, i will be happy thanks guys.
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    What does you're routine look like now?

    Heavy presses are the way to go for thickness. Top it off with an intense dropset on your last set or two for each press you do. I'd write one but I've gotta go work. Train hard!
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    What does your routine look like now?

    Is the rest of your body growing while your shoulders are lagging behind? You need to eat a hypercaloric diet for size, remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFlex
    What does you're routine look like now?

    Heavy presses are the way to go for thickness. Top it off with an intense dropset on your last set or two for each press you do. I'd write one but I've gotta go work. Train hard!
    thanks for the reply anyway bro, i usually do now:
    upright rows 4; 10,8,8,8
    military press 4; 10,8,8,8

    barbell shrug 2; 8,8
    dumbell shrug 2; 7,7

    dumbell front raise 2; 10,10
    dumbell side raise 4; 8,8,8,10
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
    What does your routine look like now?

    Is the rest of your body growing while your shoulders are lagging behind? You need to eat a hypercaloric diet for size, remember.
    I feel the rest of my body growing quite well especially my arms and my chest is also good but the irony is at school i get good coments about my physique and 8/10 of them is about my shoulders and how wide they look but here i am trying to get them thick because i know that they are not thick enough.
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    The shoulders are comprised of 3 heads: anterior, lateral, and posterior. You do zero for the posterior head, which will not only lead to lacking thickness in the look of your shoulders, but seriously compromises the integrity of your shoulder complex and potentially leads to poor posture.

    Also, based on your comments, I have a feeling your shoulders are proably as thick as they are going to get relative to the size of the rest of your body. Your body generally grows as a whole. Targeting weak points is certainly possible, but generally a much more reasonable goal if they are genuinely weak points and not a muscle that you would like to make disproportionately large and/or strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
    The shoulders are comprised of 3 heads: anterior, lateral, and posterior. You do zero for the posterior head, which will not only lead to lacking thickness in the look of your shoulders, but seriously compromises the integrity of your shoulder complex and potentially leads to poor posture.

    Also, based on your comments, I have a feeling your shoulders are proably as thick as they are going to get relative to the size of the rest of your body. Your body generally grows as a whole. Targeting weak points is certainly possible, but generally a much more reasonable goal if they are genuinely weak points and not a muscle that you would like to make disproportionately large and/or strong.
    thanks for your comments mate i appreciate them.
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    make your upper back thick and you will look thick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    make your upper back thick and you will look thick.
    i find it hard to target my upper back any tips bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBiceps
    i find it hard to target my upper back any tips bro?

    train it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    train it.
    Haha, you're such a smartass.

    To elaborate a little bit, the upper back muscles (Traps, rhomboids, posterior delts, and lats) help performing some of the following function: scapular retraction, elevation, and upward/downard rotation; as well as shoulder extension and horizontal abduction.

    Exercises that involve these articulations of the scapula and shoulder include: rowing movements, high rowing movements, pullups/chinups, pulldowns, deadlifts/rack deadlifts, shrugs, overhead pressing, and reverse fly movements.
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    back routine I liked was.

    Pullups: 20,15,15(warmup)
    lat pull downs: 15-12-8
    dumbell rows: 15-12-8
    T-bar rows: 15-12-8
    Lat pull downs: 15-12-8

    This is what i did a long while ago. Maybe it will help with you back.

    As far as shoulders.

    Front lat raise,side lat raise, alt db press, military press, shrugs with a db,bb and rear shrugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME
    back routine I liked was.

    Pullups: 20,15,15(warmup)
    lat pull downs: 15-12-8
    dumbell rows: 15-12-8
    T-bar rows: 15-12-8
    Lat pull downs: 15-12-8

    This is what i did a long while ago. Maybe it will help with you back.

    As far as shoulders.

    Front lat raise,side lat raise, alt db press, military press, shrugs with a db,bb and rear shrugs.
    Again, poor balance. You have isolation stuff for the anterior and lateral delts while neglecting the posterior delts.
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    Well now i do alot more.

    Lat pulls downs
    t-bar rows
    machine rows
    db rows
    bb rows
    deadlifts

    These are my exercies now. I know alot of exercises but this is what my body likes and i grow from. 2-3 sets each, 8-10 reps. except deads. i do 5 sets, 20,15,12,10,6
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    cow you know ur shit like very very detailed but some of us when you start talking all doctorish.....help performing some of the following function: scapular retraction, elevation, and upward/downard rotation; as well as shoulder extension and horizontal abduction....big words for some people you may not have the education you do
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    [quote=NEW_IN_THE_GAME]back routine I liked was.

    Pullups: 20,15,15(warmup)quote]

    Oh I love this. There's probably only a hand full of people here that can do 10 pullups. Probably 50% can do 1 and your saying warm up with 20,15,10.

    I'd love to see you do 20 pullups at your bodyweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBiceps
    hi fellas, i was wondering if you guys could give me an intermediate- advanced shoulder routine i have been training for a 2 years now and my shoulders have gotten very wide and thick but not enough thickness in comparrison with the width of my shoulders. If a few of you could give me maybe a good routine to get a lot of thickness so that when i stand front on my shoulders look good and thick, i will be happy thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME
    back routine I liked was.

    Pullups: 20,15,15(warmup)quote]

    Oh I love this. There's probably only a hand full of people here that can do 10 pullups. Probably 50% can do 1 and your saying warm up with 20,15,10.

    I'd love to see you do 20 pullups at your bodyweight.

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    Why? is this suppose to be hard. And I mean this is the exercise I do for my warm up. Then again I do not go all the way up. only until my mouth is level with the bar. I cannot go anyhigher I have tried several times and failed.
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    and how far do you go down?
    "Strength is the product of struggle"

    "Your greatest challenge isn't another person. Its the burning in your lungs and the burning in your legs, its the voice in your head screaming STOP you cant do anymore. But you dont listen. You push harder and you start to hear a the whisper of YOU CAN. You realize you are not the person you thought you were is no match for the person you are."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME
    Why? is this suppose to be hard. And I mean this is the exercise I do for my warm up. Then again I do not go all the way up. only until my mouth is level with the bar. I cannot go anyhigher I have tried several times and failed.
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    I do not go down all the way either. Iam not sure how to say it. I go up till my mouth is at the bar then lower about 18-20 inches. kinda modified way
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME
    I do not go down all the way either. Iam not sure how to say it. I go up till my mouth is at the bar then lower about 18-20 inches. kinda modified way
    Quote Originally Posted by kbm8795 View Post
    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
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    Hey That you woman. haha bitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME
    Hey That you woman. haha bitch

    Quote Originally Posted by kbm8795 View Post
    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


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    AWwww, on the first date and all I do not know, I may have to turn you down. fag!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WantItBad
    and how far do you go down?
    how far do you go down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME
    I do not go down all the way either. Iam not sure how to say it. I go up till my mouth is at the bar then lower about 18-20 inches. kinda modified way
    your talking about pull-ups right???

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