Resting over 2 Min. for Small Muscles

Nate K · 01-10-2006, 10:26 AM

Is there any reason to rest over 2 minutes for small muscles on a Power/LOw rep day (4-6). I feel like I'm wasting time if I rest long on muscles like bi's, calves, abs, forearms, maybe triceps.

The13ig13adWolf · 01-10-2006, 10:57 AM

not in my opinion.

**Dale Mabry** · 01-10-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate K

Is there any reason to rest over 2 minutes for small muscles on a Power/LOw rep day (4-6). I feel like I'm wasting time if I rest long on muscles like bi's, calves, abs, forearms, maybe triceps.

Yes, so that you can express as much, if not more, power in the next set. Typically, your first set shouldn't be your most powerful one. No matter how many warm up sets I do, my first set is never my most powerful one, it is typically the 2nd or 3rd.

I do not, however, see the point in doing power exercises for any of those muscle groups.

**P-funk** · 01-10-2006, 12:05 PM

yea, I don't really lift heavy and do singles or doubles for things like bi's or tri's. the lowest reps I go with a single joint move is maybe 6-8. But usually I stay in a higher rep range.

Why a 2min. rest for those though?

**Dale Mabry** · 01-10-2006, 12:25 PM

Since it is power, I think he is wondering if they need to rest as long as the bigger muscles between sets.

Are you actually training them for power, or just using low reps?

Nate K · 01-10-2006, 03:59 PM

I am using a P/RR/S spilt. So on P day I am training these muscles for power but I only use reps as low as 4-6 for bi's and tri's out of the small muscle groups.
[quote=Dale Mabry]Yes, so that you can express as much, if not more, power in the next set. Typically, your first set shouldn't be your most powerful one. No matter how many warm up sets I do, my first set is never my most powerful one, it is typically the 2nd or 3rd.
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I agree, but do you think it is necessary to rest longer that 2 min. to "express as much, if not more, power in the next set" for small muscles.

**Dale Mabry** · 01-10-2006, 05:46 PM

Are you lifting the weight as quickly as possibly, or are you just lifting it for 4-6 reps.

Tough Old Man · 01-10-2006, 05:59 PM

I'm currently using Iron Man's training which I find the best training method I have ever used. You take 3 min's between each set and 10 min's before a change in the next exercise.

Works for me.

Tough

**CowPimp** · 01-10-2006, 06:56 PM

I've done P-RR-S myself. My technique was to stick primarily to compound stuff during power weeks. My "arm" work consisted of close grip chinups, close grip bench presses, and the like. They are still compound movements, they just use your arms a little more. I saved the isolation stuff for rep range and shock weeks, although shock week was really a combination of both.

Nate K · 01-10-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

I've done P-RR-S myself. My technique was to stick primarily to compound stuff during power weeks. My "arm" work consisted of close grip chinups, close grip bench presses, and the like. They are still compound movements, they just use your arms a little more. I saved the isolation stuff for rep range and shock weeks, although shock week was really a combination of both.

Yeah, thats what I mainly do.....I think I'll only do compound exercises in that occasion.

lil2fiddyguy · 01-10-2006, 07:31 PM

I'm a noob, but it seems that if I rest too long my muscles get shaky and weak...er.

TJ Cline · 01-10-2006, 07:35 PM

4 reps for a small muscle is a waste of time

Nate K · 01-10-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

4 reps for a small muscle is a waste of time

I don't think going as low as 4 reps for exercises like skullcrushers, B.B curl, Close grip chin's, tricep dips, are a waste of time.

TJ Cline · 01-10-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate K

I don't think going as low as 4 reps for exercises like skullcrushers, B.B curl, Close grip chin's, tricep dips, are a waste of time.

Dips & chin ups are more of compound movements so low reps could be good.
As far as curls and skull crushers you are 100% wrong.

DOMS · 01-10-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

As far as curls and skull crushers you are 100% wrong.

Why's that?

TJ Cline · 01-10-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

Why's that?

Big compound movements build power and size, not small isolation movements.

topolo · 01-10-2006, 10:43 PM

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WantItBad · 01-10-2006, 10:46 PM

what about shoulder presses?

topolo · 01-10-2006, 10:48 PM

What about moving out of Wisconsin?

WantItBad · 01-10-2006, 10:51 PM

aha....why you got beef with Wisconsin...we'll fuck you up during deer season we have the 5th largest army in the world.....and shoulder press?

topolo · 01-10-2006, 10:53 PM

I like shoulder presses...... but your army is only that big because of don't ask, don't tell.

WantItBad · 01-10-2006, 10:54 PM

shoulder press low reps ever?

**P-funk** · 01-11-2006, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WantItBad

shoulder press low reps ever?

why not.

WantItBad · 01-11-2006, 09:23 AM

well they were saying the smaller muscle is a waist to do low reps shoulder small muscle

TJ Cline · 01-11-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WantItBad

well they were saying the smaller muscle is a waist to do low reps shoulder small muscle

No............low reps for compond movements are fine...ie pressing, but to do 1-5 reps for lateral raises ( a isolation movement) is a waste of time.

BigDyl · 01-11-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

No............low reps for compond movements are fine...ie pressing, but to do 1-5 reps for lateral raises ( a isolation movement) is a waste of time.

I always do a 1 rep max on lateral raises. Is that bad...

TJ Cline · 01-11-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

I always do a 1 rep max on lateral raises. Is that bad...

Not bad for you

Their is little to no chance you will ever build a body worth seeing so just do what you want.

DOMS · 01-11-2006, 12:20 PM

BigDyl · 01-11-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not bad for you

Their is little to no chance you will ever build a body worth seeing so just do what you want.

01-10-2006, 10:26 AM	#1
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01-10-2006, 12:05 PM	#4
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Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,844 Photos: 10	Since it is power, I think he is wondering if they need to rest as long as the bigger muscles between sets. Are you actually training them for power, or just using low reps?
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01-10-2006, 03:59 PM	#6
Nate K Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,676 Photos: 3	I am using a P/RR/S spilt. So on P day I am training these muscles for power but I only use reps as low as 4-6 for bi's and tri's out of the small muscle groups. [quote=Dale Mabry]Yes, so that you can express as much, if not more, power in the next set. Typically, your first set shouldn't be your most powerful one. No matter how many warm up sets I do, my first set is never my most powerful one, it is typically the 2nd or 3rd. QUOTE] I agree, but do you think it is necessary to rest longer that 2 min. to "express as much, if not more, power in the next set" for small muscles.

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01-10-2006, 07:31 PM	#11
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