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    Breaking in the Deadlift

    This is a long winded two part question and understand that I'm just getting into doing deadlifts..

    First off, I'd like to describe my form and maybe get some feedback as to weather its good or could use some improvement. I'm 6'2".. use shoulder width stance with the bar about 3 inches from the shins. I'm just using supinated grip right now on both hands. Before I lift I inhale and hold it with my head tilted up, bend my knees in and try to lift mostly with my legs at first while bringing the bar in and finishing off with my back (I think). While standing, my shoulders roll back and I breath out, Take another breath, hold it and try to reverse the lift and set it back down. I've only just started so I'm hesitant to add too much weight, my last lifts were 3x6@120#+bar and towards the last lifts I really started to feel it in the lower back, maybe tight muscles maybe something more.. either way it takes about 3 days before the deadlifts where off.... so first question is while performing the lifts is there some rules of thumb that should always be followed that I may be missing or should give more thought too in regards to keeping it safe?

    Second question is I really want to, and feel I can, lift heavy on the deadlift but want to be confident that I can do so safely.. since I just started I imagine there is a alot of stabilizer/core muscles that come into play and maybe isolating them in my routine can help me warm up to heavier deadlifts quicker. I do a full body routine with 4 compound exercises followed by 2 isolating exercises each workout. I've slotted in shoulder exercises as one of my 2 isolating lifts and I want to use lower back exercises as the other one.. what are some quick recommendations?
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    try to keep the weight as close to you as possible. I have bruises on my shins from the barbell being dragged up my shins. Second, sounds like good form on the lift, try to control the weight on the negative and hit that floor with the plates and explode up again. Hold and squeeze at the top of the lift. As for your back soreness, I am usually sore for a couple days after also. There is alot of strain on your back muscles while doing Deadlifts. Your core body is stronger then most thing. As for more weight, make sure you can control the weight you are doing currently before you go up weight. I can control 315lbs for 2 sets of 8 reps. I have done 350lbs, however my form suffers and my back gets so tight that I am almost laid out for a week. So I stick to 315lbs and increase weight as I feel fit.
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    Simply increase the weight very slowly. You want to allow your tendons, CNS, muscles, etc. time to get used to the added weight. Add five pounds each work out (if you feel comfortable doing so) and see how it goes. As far as a critique of form goes, you could be doing something other than what you think. Posting a video here is the best option. As long as you're using perfect form, however, you basically won't get hurt so long as you progress in weight sensibly.
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    Generally when beginning with a new lift, you should start relatively light (12-15RM). Once you get the form down, then you can progress up in weight. Often times this happens quickly. I have immediately fallen into the groove for certain lifts. You have to be the judge of this.

    As far as your form goes, check out the following links:
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    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459744
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=586815

    Don't start your workouts by fatiguing your stabilizer muscles. Bad, no, very bad idea. End your workout with some supplemental core training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
    Generally when beginning with a new lift, you should start relatively light (12-15RM). Once you get the form down, then you can progress up in weight. Often times this happens quickly. I have immediately fallen into the groove for certain lifts. You have to be the judge of this.

    As far as your form goes, check out the following links:
    http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=295prec2
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459744
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=586815

    Don't start your workouts by fatiguing your stabilizer muscles. Bad, no, very bad idea. End your workout with some supplemental core training.
    Do you mean dont start your back workout with the deadlift?
    I always thought you are suppost to do the big compound movements first..

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    deadlifts are a back exercise?

    He means don't do things that are going to tire out those muscles before hitting an exercise that recruits so much. Like, don't do leg curls before deadlifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogo
    Do you mean dont start your back workout with the deadlift?
    I always thought you are suppost to do the big compound movements first..
    The poster said he was thinking that some lower back work would help warm him up for deadlifts, implying that he would begin his workout with lower back work prior to deadlifting. I'm saying that you shouldn't fatigue an important stabilizer like your lower back at the beginning of your workout. That is asking for trouble when performing exercises that load the trunk; in this case the deadlift.
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    try to keep the weight as close to you as possible. I have bruises on my shins from the barbell being dragged up my shins.
    This I will pay more attention too.

    Nice.. very good reads, excellent resource just what I was looking for!

    The poster said he was thinking that some lower back work would help warm him up for deadlifts
    I see where it could be taking differntly but actually I meant "warm up" in the overall sense of conditioning myself for stronger deadlifts quicker not as a warm up in a paticular workout. Bad choice of description on my part really.

    In my workouts I cycle through 4 compound movements as the bulk of my workout then throw in 2 exercises to target things I want to work on like my shoulders and now I'm thinking of focusing on lowerback each workout as well thinking that it would be a good strategy to improve the deadlifts and squats,err actually reduce the chance of accidental injury is more what I mean. Definitly something that I would do at the end of the workout.
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