Natural or roided out???
400 lb bench
500 lb squat
600 lb deadlift
315 lb hang clean
NONE are impressive
Lets use a 200lbs 5'10 male who is 22 for this example
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Natural or roided out???
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depends how many years hes been training, whether or not he is natural, if his bench press is done with his feet on the bench, if the squat is ass to calves high bar and medium stance, ALL THE WAY DOWN, if the deadlift is done double overhand and is smooth, and if the hang clean brings to him to A FULL front squat. lol
a lot of technicalities, I know, but WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, a 500 lb raw, no belt, ass to grass high bar squat with a pause at the bottom is absolutely out of this world, VERY VERY FEW 200 lb natural lifters are capable of this. I dont meaning breaking parallel I dont mean going close to all the way down, I mean going down until your ass is about 4-6 inches from hitting the floor, pausing and squatting up smooth with a straight back.
nothing more impressive then a triple BW deadlift.
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Sword-lets say powerlifting competiton rules on squat gotta break paraell
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"Your greatest challenge isn't another person. Its the burning in your lungs and the burning in your legs, its the voice in your head screaming STOP you cant do anymore. But you dont listen. You push harder and you start to hear a the whisper of YOU CAN. You realize you are not the person you thought you were is no match for the person you are."
i'd rather squat 500 than deadlift 600
Depends on body weight.....I knew a guy who could bench 500lbs naturally but he was 350 and a fat pig...so impressive but also not impressive. The most impresive natural bench I have seen is by my buddy in Chicago....he did 450 at 275...never used a steroid in his life....he still hits about 385 and only trains casually now.
Most impressive dead lift I have seen was by a friend of mine 18 years ago,,,he was 17 and 143lbs...he did a 495 dead lift in compatition...also never used a steroid in hiis life....now he is a fat pig....about 5'4 and 220 or so....really sad to see that happen to people.
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[quote=ForemanRules]Depends on body weight.....I knew a guy who could bench 500lbs naturally but he was 350 and a fat pig...so impressive but also not impressive. The most impresive natural bench I have seen is by my buddy in Chicago....he did 450 at 275...never used a steroid in his life....he still hits about 385 and only trains casually now.
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"Strength is the product of struggle"
"Your greatest challenge isn't another person. Its the burning in your lungs and the burning in your legs, its the voice in your head screaming STOP you cant do anymore. But you dont listen. You push harder and you start to hear a the whisper of YOU CAN. You realize you are not the person you thought you were is no match for the person you are."
[quote=WantItBad][quote=ForemanRules]Depends on body weight.....I knew a guy who could bench 500lbs naturally but he was 350 and a fat pig...so impressive but also not impressive. The most impresive natural bench I have seen is by my buddy in Chicago....he did 450 at 275...never used a steroid in his life....he still hits about 385 and only trains casually now.[quote=WantItBad]
I was just giving examples of what I have seen in the gym over the years..
Lets use a 200lbs 5'10 male who is 22 for this example for a natural guy
Good Raw bench: 315 , 405 ..amazing
Good squat: 500 very good, 600 amazing....
Good dead lift: 500 very good, 600 amazing...
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ok since you brought it up give us numbers for that same person after 3 smart cylces.......
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I like deadlifts. I mean I was at 545. I want to someday say I can deadlift 800 pounds. Prolly wont happen but hey. I can dream.
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200.......now 240Originally Posted by WantItBad
bench 450-500
squat 675-750
Dead lift 650-700+
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Good numbers bruther. Maybe IM me your routine?
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Squat is most impressive. Having 500lb on your back would be tough.
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Raw with competition lifts, I'd have to say the deadlift. It receives the smallest amount of help from gear if it's used, and is the only lift that must be started from the bottom position, which makes it much harder. Holding 600 pounds is no small feat either.
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I'd like to know what conceited jackasses voted "none are impressive"![]()
In all honesty, a 600 pound deadlift or 500 pound squat & 315 pound clean are almost unachievable (by that I mean 1/2 of a percent of us will reach them naturallY) and crazy impressive...there's probably a very small handful of people on this forum of thousands that can come close to touching these at a low body weight..
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I think the are all impressive in their own way.
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I totally agree, I mean all impressive, but I am a deadlift person, favorite exercise. At 200 pounds these are awesome. 3x bw dead is like me doing 750. damn that would be awesome.
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i dont know of a whole lot of people who can do 450 lb squat, raw and ass to the floor. very very rare for a person weighing 200.


I voted hang clean.
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Not reallyOriginally Posted by swordfish
One of my friends did 500 when he was 15, all natural, no suit.
all natural, ass touching calves, high bar, and back straight huh?
how much did he weight, how tall was he, how many years training?
i dont think people understand when i say ass to the floor, i mean squat down until you are literally inches from you ass hitting the ground, and squat all the way up SMOOTH.


Just because someone can do it, doesn't take away from it's impressiveness.Not really
One of my friends did 500 when he was 15, all natural, no suit.
very true, mycat probably forgot to mention that his friend was 250 lbs and was 5 foot 5. lol
I know someone who can supposedly squat 595 parallel and he's a senior in high school. Amazing? Yes. Any less impressive just because he can do it? No, not because of one person. I don't remember that because it was unimpressive after all...
This is just a parallel squat, but it's still a hell of a lot of weight. He's something like 260 though.
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I choose 500lb squat. Just because I suck at squatting and think its the best motion.
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Don't kill me......
But I don't think single mass lifts are not that impressive. I'm a big guy and can do most of those on a bad day, I'm a little older so I back off the maxes
bench 405 for 4-5 reps no prob
squat (breaking parrallel , I just cant go deeper) 495 6-8 reps
I'm sure I can dead over 700
And I don't think that its that impressive.
Who I'm impressed by are these freaks that can balance with there arms one one swiss ball and feet on two others and do deep push ups, or the guys doing one arm pullups, or my favorite 1 arm 1 leg pushups (i DID 6 ON MY RIGHT AND 3 ON MY LEFT ) and was so proud. Oh yeah a hands free rear kip up is very impressive, as are floor flairs.
If you define 'a big guy' as being 300 pounds, then it's not really a valid comparison. You'd have to be deadlifting 900 to compare. We're talking about 200 BW. If you do those at a 200 BW, you're doing better than probably 99.9% of people. Not that those aren't impressive anyways though.
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I agree, on steroids those lifts are average at best.Originally Posted by FenderBender
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