Thread: Squat vs. bench numbers

who care?

Originally Posted by kenwood

who care?

Swordfish care.
I can probably do it but my bench is not that impressive.

i can do more than i can bench...most ppl can

Like most people, my squat is better than my bench.

You'd have to not work your legs at all for them to be about the same.

My bench is at least 100lbs stronger than my squat.....but not for long.

ummmm I can squat atg way more than I can bench.

my squat is way over my bench.

I dont bench more than 155 right now, so yeah my squat RULEZ

Originally Posted by Mudge

I dont bench more than 155 right now, so yeah my squat RULEZ

injury??

Left delt is not friendly to me for a couple months yeah, even the 1 plate work can bother me (I do 2 sets). I did incline dumbells last time because oddly enough, those seem the easiest on me. Decline and dips both bother my left shoulder.

I was doing 2 plate stuff for awhile, but I wasn't "healing."

I did 115*10 pound dumbells on the incline and I feel no worse than I did before.

Originally Posted by Mudge

Left delt is not friendly to me for a couple months yeah, even the 1 plate work can bother me (I do 2 sets). I did incline dumbells last time because oddly enough, those seem the easiest on me. Decline and dips both bother my left shoulder.

I was doing 2 plate stuff for awhile, but I wasn't "healing."

I did 115*10 pound dumbells on the incline and I feel no worse than I did before.

maybe you should go to the orthopedist and get that checked out?

I dont even know how it happened really, its not horrific, its improving, but its still there. No flat pressing at all is pretty much a given right now. It seems the freedom of mobility with dumbells are a savior right now, flat dumbells I am not taking a liking too and they also bother me slightly.

Would you assume it to be a rotator? I always did 2.5 pound rotator work for a set once a week. Actually now that I think of it again, as SOON as I started overhead pressing again problems started, and we are talking single plate "get used to the movement" again for I think 1 or 2 sets. After about 3 weeks is when I had problems.

Seated, front pressing, not bottoming out my elbows.

Originally Posted by Mudge

I dont even know how it happened really, its not horrific, its improving, but its still there. No flat pressing at all is pretty much a given right now. It seems the freedom of mobility with dumbells are a savior right now, flat dumbells I am not taking a liking too and they also bother me slightly.

Would you assume it to be a rotator? I always did 2.5 pound rotator work for a set once a week. Actually now that I think of it again, as SOON as I started overhead pressing again problems started, and we are talking single plate "get used to the movement" again for I think 1 or 2 sets. After about 3 weeks is when I had problems.

Seated, front pressing, not bottoming out my elbows.

sounds like it could be rotator. Maybe supraspinatus (could also be why the DBs don't bother it since the mobility helps you to get in a more "netrual position" to allow the muscles to move a little free around the joint).

2.5lb for rotator work? You could probably do a little more then that. Also, what exercises were you doing? I always mix up my exercises. I also usually go for higher reps and I do my rotator work 2-3x's per week. may want to try some full ROM rotator exercises as opposed to just ext. rotation. Things like scaption or cross body cable laterals with external rotation. I think you know what the first one is. The second on you stand next to a cable tower and grab the bottom cable with your far hand (the ball end, no handles, to allow for freer movement). You are going to do a lateral raise across your body and as you move through the ROM you are going to externally rotate. Think you are starting with your palm facing you at the bottom of the rep and then as you go through the ROM you are turning your palm up wards until at the top of the movement, your arm is up in the air, perpendicular to the floor, and you thumb is pointing backwards (palm is facing your head).

I would keep resting before doing these (drop the benching). Ice 2-3x's per day at 20min each time. Once you get back, start with light Close grip cable rows for high reps (15-20) to get blood in there and help to start the rebuilding process. After that you can go back to some light benching and throwing in the rotator work and things like scapular retractions.

I was at one point doing 30 pound dumbells, but the point of the movement is not to move weight, so I eventually got all the way down to 2.5s and sometimes I'd use 5s. I'm trying to remember the article I read in Muscle and Fiction when Hillebrand(?) was almost out of the game for good after a rotator tear, and he was using 5s or something.

Guy at the gym was explaining icing for me, I forgot about that...

For rotators I was only doing a standing scarecrow kind of movement, if you remember the shoulder horn that Ironman was trying to sell to people, like that. 15-20ish reps, not to failure kind of thing.

For a few weeks I was warming up with side laterals holding 10 pound plates, and doing my rotator stuff, and sticking to 2 plate pressing. Just wasn't enough.

Thanks for the tips P-Guru.

don't warm up the rotators before pressing. it just tires them out and opens them up for injury.

Like a pre-exaust, gotcha. I tried to keep it light because I thought them being cold was my problem.

Thanks again mano.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

My bench is at least 100lbs stronger than my squat.....but not for long.

PATHETIC!

Originally Posted by Mudge

Like a pre-exaust, gotcha. I tried to keep it light because I thought them being cold was my problem.

Thanks again mano.

just warm up with movements like shoulder rolls, arm circles, shoulder shrugs. Take a light resistance band and hold it in front of you at arms length and do some little rear delt flyes, etc....things like that.

My ATG front squat can kick my bench's ass. My clean can kick its ass too. My ATG front squat was 265x2 last time I checked and my clean was 220x2. My bottom bench is about 180. Not very good, but it is what it is and it's simply not a strong point.