Thread: Squats and DeadLifts on the same day

Originally Posted by Doublebase

I noticed in a few recent splits people putting squats and deadlifts on the same day. Is this beneficial? I usually split them up on different days since they are both huge compound movements. Anyone else do them on the same day and why?

I've performed them in the same session before, although I would alternate which one comes first in the workout. What would be the problem with performing them in the same workout?

Originally Posted by Doublebase

Anyone else do them on the same day and why?

yes. because my coach tells me to.

i superset different forms of squats and deads on both lower body days. only once in the past few weeks have i felt like i was gonna pass out .

I just started doing them again, so far I do both on thew same day. It is a very hard workout but I love it.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

What would be the problem with performing them in the same workout?

They are both extremely hard exercises and very taxing on the muscles so I thought it may be harmful to do them on the same day.

Originally Posted by Doublebase

They are both extremely hard exercises and very taxing on the muscles so I thought it may be harmful to do them on the same day.

Your body can handle it as long as you allow for sufficient recovery. I think everyone is a little too into the whole overtraining thing. I think a lot of times overtraining isn't the issue, so much as a waste of time or poor distribution of volume.

I have been doing them on the same day over the last year, and I have only had positive results. I like doing them on the same day to actually give my spinal erectors time to recover versus hitting them two or three times a week. It works for me, but may not be for everyone.

You can check out my journal here.

I have started doing squats and sumo deadlifts on the same day. It worked fine for me.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Your body can handle it as long as you allow for sufficient recovery. I think everyone is a little too into the whole overtraining thing. I think a lot of times overtraining isn't the issue, so much as a waste of time or poor distribution of volume.

True, but overtraining is generally thought of as occuring over a longer period of time. I couldn't do both exercises on the same day and give them both 100%. For my goals, it would be foolish to work them the same day because it's all about pushing myself to the maximum in strength during each and every rep.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

True, but overtraining is generally thought of as occuring over a longer period of time. I couldn't do both exercises on the same day and give them both 100%. For my goals, it would be foolish to work them the same day because it's all about pushing myself to the maximum in strength during each and every rep.

Thats like saying you can't give your triceps 100% after benching..

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

True, but overtraining is generally thought of as occuring over a longer period of time. I couldn't do both exercises on the same day and give them both 100%. For my goals, it would be foolish to work them the same day because it's all about pushing myself to the maximum in strength during each and every rep.

powerlifting meets require you do to the exercisese on the same day....ful on 100% maximal effort. There is some merit to training speceficity.

Could you imagine a bulgarain weightlifting walking up to Ivan Abajiev and saying "coach. i can't take this much stimulation. snatching, clean and jerking and then front squating to max effort in one training session is just killing me." um....you are a lifter. that is what you do. train the way you compete.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Thats like saying you can't give your triceps 100% after benching..

exactly.

Originally Posted by P-funk

powerlifting meets require you do to the exercisese on the same day....ful on 100% maximal effort. There is some merit to training speceficity.

Could you imagine a bulgarain weightlifting walking up to Ivan Abajiev and saying "coach. i can't take this much stimulation. snatching, clean and jerking and then front squating to max effort in one training session is just killing me." um....you are a lifter. that is what you do. train the way you compete.

First, those are the most elite athletes alive. They better be able to handle a hell of a lot. Second, everyone's going to be different and everyone is lifting for different goals. I'm trying to be as strong as I can, not win a powerlifting competition for a total. Third, I would expect a powerlifter to work like that specifically if he is going to do a meet like that. Fourth, there is usually quite a bit of time between the lifts if it's a big meet from what I know.

And I don't work body parts, so I wouldn't try to give my triceps a good workout after benching. Sure, you can get a nice 'pump' but the numbers you're moving won't be as high. With my kind of training, this is a setback.

Squaggle, I guarantee if you waited a solid 5 minutes in between your squatting and deadlifting you would be fine. Like P said, powerlifters do it all the time. Their goal is also to be as strong as they can, but with those particular lifts. Whether they are top level or complete amateurs, powerlifting competitions are the same in that you have to perform all 3 lifts together like that.

Furthermore, I doubt that the poster who started this thread has exactly the same goals as you. This is a bodybuilding forum, as much as I pretend that it isn't. So for bodybuilding purposes, doing squats and deadlifts on the same day is actually a good idea in my opinion, assuming sufficient recovery time is allowed.

They are great together , But I would caution you about doing it every week. You need more recovry time.
I do them together but every other week.