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znn00 · 05-18-2009, 08:51 AM

another question is about the effect of wide,mdeium and narrow grip. what does each one of them do??

**P-funk** · 05-18-2009, 03:11 PM

grip for what?

patrick

znn00 · 05-18-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

grip for what?

patrick

i meant that when you hold a barbell and lift weights, there is 3 types of grip (narrow,medium and wide grip)in grip i mean the place where you put ur hands on the barbell when lifting weights.what is the effect of variation between these grips??

**P-funk** · 05-18-2009, 03:27 PM

What exercise are you talking about?

For bench press, I just have my hands right outside of shoulder width, but sometimes I do close grip - with the hands closer in. I never press with a wide grip.

For squats I put my hands out a little bit wider than most people because I am squatting low bar these days and that feels most comfortable.

I never do wide grip pull ups.

Is this what you mean?

Patrick

**Built** · 05-18-2009, 03:28 PM

I think Patrick meant "for which lift".

For lat pulldowns or chins, for example, wide grip does not build width - it actually takes some of the vertical load off the lat and places it on the rotator cuff. Think "triangle" or "vector" and you'll see the problem.

I'll give this back to Patrick for the other lifts, since I would be extending beyond the scope of my knowledge for the other lifts.

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stephenpaul6557 · 07-15-2009, 09:14 PM

For wide grip and close grip pull ups what is the difference? I mean do they work different muscles or does it just make the workout harder?

**Built** · 07-15-2009, 09:33 PM

Close grip places the force vector directly on the lats and biceps.

Wide grip triangulates the force vector, reducing some of the vertical load off the lat and placing it instead on the rotator cuff.

(In other words, don't do them).

nkira · 07-16-2009, 12:53 AM

^ I got answer to my question.....

stephenpaul6557 · 07-16-2009, 09:58 PM

Oh okay I see! Thanks for the translation I'm not great with the specific terms! lol

05-18-2009, 03:11 PM	#122
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,660	grip for what? patrick E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

05-18-2009, 03:27 PM	#124
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,660	What exercise are you talking about? For bench press, I just have my hands right outside of shoulder width, but sometimes I do close grip - with the hands closer in. I never press with a wide grip. For squats I put my hands out a little bit wider than most people because I am squatting low bar these days and that feels most comfortable. I never do wide grip pull ups. Is this what you mean? Patrick E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

05-18-2009, 03:28 PM	#125
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	I think Patrick meant "for which lift". For lat pulldowns or chins, for example, wide grip does not build width - it actually takes some of the vertical load off the lat and places it on the rotator cuff. Think "triangle" or "vector" and you'll see the problem. I'll give this back to Patrick for the other lifts, since I would be extending beyond the scope of my knowledge for the other lifts. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-15-2009, 09:33 PM	#128
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	Close grip places the force vector directly on the lats and biceps. Wide grip triangulates the force vector, reducing some of the vertical load off the lat and placing it instead on the rotator cuff. (In other words, don't do them). Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

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05-18-2009, 08:51 AM	#121
znn00 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Syrian living in the U.A.E Posts: 11	another question is about the effect of wide,mdeium and narrow grip. what does each one of them do??

07-15-2009, 09:14 PM	#127
stephenpaul6557 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 16	For wide grip and close grip pull ups what is the difference? I mean do they work different muscles or does it just make the workout harder?

07-16-2009, 09:58 PM	#130
stephenpaul6557 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 16	Oh okay I see! Thanks for the translation I'm not great with the specific terms! lol