Doggcrapp Training

min0 lee · 02-26-2006, 09:47 PM

I came to this thread around the same time the Bosox finally won, I never got a chance to rub it in.

Tough Old Man · 02-26-2006, 09:48 PM

See what you got going. You weren't happy enough so you have to go and get us all arguing about baseball. Way to go.

They all suck now that steroids are out of the picture. Look half the guys may even retire. Bonds and who's next. Bonds couldn't hit 50 homeruns without gear.

min0 lee · 02-26-2006, 10:20 PM

Training Methods

Needsize's 5x5 http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159

Split 2x day training . http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=11847&hl=

Fox Sets http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1048

3x3 Training http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=867
Max-OT
http://www.ast-ss.com/max-ot/max-ot_intro.asp

Basic Splits:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=143006

Conjugate splits/high frequency training:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=289834

HST (Hypertrophy Specific Training):
www.hypertrophy-specific.com
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=280813
http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1165

HIT (High Intensity Training):
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-hit-training.asp
http://www.naturalstrength.com/resea...?ArticleID=207

Dogg Crapp Training (DC):
http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2
http://intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=4944

Extreme Stretching (to go along with DC):
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magaz...stretching.htm
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...89#post2046389

Dual Factor Hypertrophy Training (DFHT)
DFHT is another workout program that resembles HST
http://www.gettingripped.com/dfht.doc
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=682

Westside Training:
www.westside-barbell.com
www.elitefts.com
http://www.ironaddicts.com/articles/westsidemod.htm

What is Westside Training a.k.a. WSB? http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160
WSB for Athletes http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=370
Westside Training http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822

German Volume Training (GVT)
German Volume Training (GVT) http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=659
http://www.strengthcats.com/CP-GVT.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis13.htm

Advanced German Volume Training (AVGT)
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=658759
http://www.bodybuilding.net/showthread.php?t=760

Tri Phase Progressive Training (TP PT):
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/content/page-249.html

Abbreviated Training:
www.hardgainer.com
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/shannon13.htm

Russian Training
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=305786
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...threadid=74669

Bulgarian Training
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~keen0018/bulgar.htm
http://www.fortifiediron.net/invisio...hp/t13253.html

Pendulum Training
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....ticle=296pend2
Undulated Periodization - Variable Repitition Training
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/alwyn3.htm

Ian's Top 10 Mass Makers
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=483907

Shoulders Overhaul
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=469072

Triple Threat
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459221

Optimized Volume Training OVT
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459276

shiznit2169 · 02-26-2006, 10:27 PM

daaamn mino, u got a looott of time on your hands

TJ Cline · 02-26-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

daaamn mino, u got a looott of time on your hands

min0 lee · 02-26-2006, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

daaamn mino, u got a looott of time on your hands

I found that but since this thread is basically about who stole what......lots of good links though.

soxmuscle · 02-26-2006, 10:40 PM

I like DOGGCRAPP... or atleast placing it in a paper bag on fire on somebodys doorstep.

DOMS · 02-26-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

He's Swedish.

**CowPimp** · 02-26-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DanOz

Maybe -
These were my exercises:
Chest: DB Bench, DB Incline, Weighted Dips
Back: BB Deadlift, BB Row, Weighted Pull Ups
Quads: Squats, Leg Press, Hack Squat
Biceps: EZ Preacher, TB Preacher Hammer, Weighted Chins
Triceps: BB CG Bench, TB Skullcrushers, TB Seated Overhead Ext
Forearms: EZ Reverse Preacher, BB Wrist Curl, EZ Reverse Wrist Curl
Calfs: Standing Calf Raise, Seated Calf, Calf Press
Hams: BB Romanian Deadlift, BB SLDL, Leg Curl
Delts: BB Seated Press, DB Seated Press, DB Seated Arnold Press

I worked in the 8-12, 3-5, 1-3 for rest pause with explosive positives, squeeze at top, 5 second negatives. I used static holds, extreme stretching. 20 rep straight sets for squats, straight sets for body parts with slow recovery like hams. I'm a little limited in exercises as I train at home, so if I don't got it, I don't do it. Every body part done once every 4 days. If I went wrong somewhere, please let me know. As I said, I had limited info on the program.

How often were you performing these movements? Once every 4 days? If so, yeah, then you were doing a bit much in my opinion. You also shouldn't be working in the 90-100% intensity range with every movement like that. Read the stickies that I wrote on designing routines. There are examples of full body and upper-lower routines in there.

DOMS · 02-26-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Ian's Top 10 Mass Makers
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=483907

The irony of your selection comes out in a quote from above article:

Quote:

I'll start out with discussing and explaining a simple underlying concept I have in relation to mass development. It’s very simplistic (which may not be impressive enough for those pursuing complexity); it may not be currently scientifically supported (which may not be impressive for those who want the comfort of being able to say "research shows…"); it may not be original, as I can't claim to be the first to make this conclusion; and it may not be popular (which may not turn on those who want to do what everyone else is doing).

**CowPimp** · 02-26-2006, 11:00 PM

Min0, you should post all those in another thread. That's a good collection of articles.

min0 lee · 02-26-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Min0, you should post all those in another thread. That's a good collection of articles.

It's not mine, I posted this to show people the slight similarities some may have with each other.

But it is a good list that also had a list of video sites. I might ask the guy for permission to use it.

IRON MAN · 02-27-2006, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I like DOGGCRAPP... or atleast placing it in a paper bag on fire on somebodys doorstep.

Thats too funny because we did that once..Cops where called and all that fun stuff.

IRON MAN · 02-27-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

I am not going to get into this ridiculous argument, but I have to simply stand up for Dante here and just say that my experiences with him as a person and trainer have led to me respecting him incredibly both as a person and a trainer in this industry. He is one of the most knowledgable people around and is also just a good guy as a whole. His DC training is excellent and provides so many people with excellent results.

Just saying my piece, and now you can commence with the irrational bashing.

No bashing here. Since DOGCRAPP thinks I have stolen his routine, let's put his little theory to the test.

1. Let's have an open forum DEBATE in my FAQ section.Come on DOGCRAPP let's do this thing..Everyone from this site and every other site your affiliated with can PARTICIPATE.

DOGGCRAPP · 02-27-2006, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IRON MAN

No bashing here. Since DOGCRAPP thinks I have stolen his routine, let's put his little theory to the test.

1. Let's have an open forum DEBATE in my FAQ section.Come on DOGCRAPP let's do this thing..Everyone from this site and every other site your affiliated with can PARTICIPATE.

The last time I went at you, your traffic went thru the roof on your thread at pro muscle which you absolutely loved. You think Im an idiot? Im not doing that again. So lets think about this here shall we? I would argue my point, you will argue your point and neither one of us leave with a changed mind. So who does that benefit? You with the increased traffic you would love to have in your Ironman forum. No you arent going to use me for another publicity stunt for yourself, but what you can do is answer the obvious questions you keep trying to avoid. Lets start with this one shall we? With IP addresses that match exactly are you still going to state that your not Mr.biceps?

(trust me he wont answer the question, he will segway to something else, his usual habit)

Let me guess, its your cloned brother sneaking into your house using your computer while your sleeping?

IRON MAN · 02-27-2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I like how that fag skip says that "ironman ripped off other people for his program".

Are you fucking kidding me? Has this guy ever read a fucking book....all of them ripped off someone. To think that Doggshit came up with that program on his own is a joke also. he took some training ideas and organized them into a program. none of these people developed any of this.

thank god Rob is our admin. and not some homo like TEAM SKIP.

P-funk it's true my IP-ADDRESS does go back to my friends place of business-residence-one in the same.. Mr.B understands my situation and in return I have helped him put on more size in 3 months than he had been able to lay on in the past 3 years. Same thing happened to VANDER V at Professional Muscle after being on my program for 3 months. It's no ones business who I really am and I have my reasons.

Theres only 2 things DANTE has been right on and the rest is HOGWASH.

1. I do not train Ronnie Coleman. However I did assist him on 2 different occasions. Hey thats more than most can claim..

2. I've semi copied one of his articles on purpose. He kept whining over at Pro muscle about me stealing his rest-pause

so I got fed up and copied the first line out of one of his articles just to piss him off.Heck I figured if he was going to accuse me I would do it once just for spite.

It gets old when you know someone is trying to run you down and it would appear the BATTLE HAS JUST BEGUN

Why so much drama over the IRON MAN "HIT"?? I'll tell you straight up. Take a very close look at the DC thread, those guys at Intense Muscle are beginning to get desperate because their board is slowing down, and they know that my routine is one of the hottest thing on the market right now and it's for FREE. So their little click has been using my name and going to different boards posting up links, stirring up DOGCRAP, all in the name of bringing in traffic. With these boys it all comes down to the MIGHTY DOLLAR BILL.

NOTE: I have invited DOGCRAPP over to our site for a public debate in the FAQ section in my sub-forum so the listening audience can find out who is real and who is not.I will not leave this board to defend my cause. I do not believe DOGCRAPP has the manhood to face me one on one..I think it's time DANTE PUT UP OR SHUT UP I'LL BRING MY POOPER SCOOPER.

IRON MAN · 02-27-2006, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOGGCRAPP

The last time I went at you, your traffic went thru the roof on your thread at pro muscle which you absolutely loved. You think Im an idiot? Im not doing that again. So lets think about this here shall we? I would argue my point, you will argue your point and neither one of us leave with a changed mind. So who does that benefit? You with the increased traffic you would love to have in your Ironman forum. No you arent going to use me for another publicity stunt for yourself, but what you can do is answer the obvious questions you keep trying to avoid. Lets start with this one shall we? With IP addresses that match exactly are you still going to state that your not Mr.biceps?

(trust me he wont answer the question, he will segway to something else, his usual habit)

Let me guess, its your cloned brother sneaking into your house using your computer while your sleeping?

WRONGMr.B is my close friend. IP addresses are quite easy to trace and I told everyone at Professional muscle my true identity would remain a mystery from the beginning. If your smart you'll eventually figure out why

.

I KNEW YOU'D COW DOWN ON DEBATING ME. NOT ENOUGH MONEY INVOLVED..EH???

DOGGCRAPP · 02-27-2006, 01:20 AM

Just seeing you try to explain this all away is some of the best internet fodder anyone has ever seen (now mr.biceps is your close freind at a place of business, both the same age, one son each, 21 inch guns, from TN, both christian fanatics, same writing style, training for same number of years, both recommending 12-15 degree inclines and declines everywhere), have you looked at the times you and he have been posting? Are you and him hanging out at the shop at 230 am in the morning?

Guess what? Your 15 minutes of fame has just ended.....

IRON MAN · 02-27-2006, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOGGCRAPP

Just seeing you try to explain this all away is some of the best internet fodder anyone has ever seen (now mr.biceps is your close freind at a place of business, both the same age, one son each, 21 inch guns, from TN, both christian fanatics, same writing style, training for same number of years, both recommending 12-15 degree inclines and declines everywhere), have you looked at the times you and he have been posting? Are you and him hanging out at the shop at 230 am in the morning?

Guess what? Your 15 minutes of fame has just ended.....

What gave you the FUCKING idea I am a Christian fanatic. What are you a damn atheist??

I'm much LARGER and LEANER than Mr.b.and it was I who taught MR.B how to do 15 degree declines not the other way around. I learned the method from BILL PEARL not YOU!! . It's not a shop and it's none of your business where and when I use a computer.Your just pissed

I am never EVER EVER going to tell you who I really am. GET OVER IT!!!

Lets debate on this thread..WILL YOU DEBATE BODYBUILDING WITH ME ON THIS THREAD??

**P-funk** · 02-27-2006, 04:16 AM

Dale once stole my program design on another board when he was using the name Mr. Semimembranosus.....I know it was you mother fucker!! I know you took my ideas.

WantItBad · 02-27-2006, 08:02 AM

I throw hang cleans in to myworkouts now sometimes sorry p-funk i stole your idea of olympic lifting

NEW_MASS · 02-27-2006, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOGGCRAPP

Just seeing you try to explain this all away is some of the best internet fodder anyone has ever seen (now mr.biceps is your close freind at a place of business, both the same age, one son each, 21 inch guns, from TN, both christian fanatics, same writing style, training for same number of years, both recommending 12-15 degree inclines and declines everywhere), have you looked at the times you and he have been posting? Are you and him hanging out at the shop at 230 am in the morning?

Guess what? Your 15 minutes of fame has just ended.....

DC i'm surprised you haven't caught on yet to the fact that Mr Biceps was a trainee under the "HIT" Program.
Im also surprised that you can't see the possibility of what your saying about how everything "Appears" to be an Exact Duplicate.
Situations like this can and do happen when one hangs around another for some time, their styles become A-alike, its the Law of Nature im very surprised you haven't caught on to this yet. Evidently the Program had an Enormous Effect on Mr Biceps to the point that he picked up The IRONMAN Ways of doing things such as being on the comp 230 am in morning in which talking or posting this late could be due to the Heavy Effect the program Distilled.

**CowPimp** · 02-27-2006, 08:39 AM

All of you are obviously performing a routine consisting of a high volume of fudge packing.

02-26-2006, 09:47 PM	#301
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02-26-2006, 09:48 PM	#302
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	Dante See what you got going. You weren't happy enough so you have to go and get us all arguing about baseball. Way to go. They all suck now that steroids are out of the picture. Look half the guys may even retire. Bonds and who's next. Bonds couldn't hit 50 homeruns without gear.

02-26-2006, 10:20 PM	#303
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,820 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	I spawned these.......just joking. Training Methods Needsize's 5x5 http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159 Split 2x day training . http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=11847&hl= Fox Sets http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1048 3x3 Training http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=867 Max-OT http://www.ast-ss.com/max-ot/max-ot_intro.asp Basic Splits: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=143006 Conjugate splits/high frequency training: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=289834 HST (Hypertrophy Specific Training): www.hypertrophy-specific.com http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=280813 http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1165 HIT (High Intensity Training): http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-hit-training.asp http://www.naturalstrength.com/resea...?ArticleID=207 Dogg Crapp Training (DC): http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2 http://intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=4944 Extreme Stretching (to go along with DC): http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magaz...stretching.htm http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...89#post2046389 Dual Factor Hypertrophy Training (DFHT) DFHT is another workout program that resembles HST http://www.gettingripped.com/dfht.doc http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=682 Westside Training: www.westside-barbell.com www.elitefts.com http://www.ironaddicts.com/articles/westsidemod.htm What is Westside Training a.k.a. WSB? http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160 WSB for Athletes http://www.xtrememass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=370 Westside Training http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822 German Volume Training (GVT) German Volume Training (GVT) http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=659 http://www.strengthcats.com/CP-GVT.html http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis13.htm Advanced German Volume Training (AVGT) http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=658759 http://www.bodybuilding.net/showthread.php?t=760 Tri Phase Progressive Training (TP PT): http://www.mindandmuscle.net/content/page-249.html Abbreviated Training: www.hardgainer.com http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/shannon13.htm Russian Training http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=305786 http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...threadid=74669 Bulgarian Training http://www.tc.umn.edu/~keen0018/bulgar.htm http://www.fortifiediron.net/invisio...hp/t13253.html Pendulum Training http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....ticle=296pend2 Undulated Periodization - Variable Repitition Training http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/alwyn3.htm Ian's Top 10 Mass Makers http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=483907 Shoulders Overhaul http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=469072 Triple Threat http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459221 Optimized Volume Training OVT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459276
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02-27-2006, 01:20 AM	#318
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02-27-2006, 04:16 AM	#320
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