Doggcrapp Training

Triple Threat · 02-19-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Move over and pass the popcorn, please!

RippedNYLifter · 02-19-2006, 09:08 PM

Okay damn, I didn't think this would cause this much of a problem. Mods delete this thread please.

min0 lee · 02-19-2006, 09:22 PM

So are we not allowed to talk about DC?

**Dale Mabry** · 02-19-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedNYLifter

Okay damn, I didn't think this would cause this much of a problem. Mods delete this thread please.

No.

**Prince** · 02-19-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

So are we not allowed to talk about DC?

of course, you think he can come here and tell me what can be talked about, get real. carry on...

IRON MAN · 02-19-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedNYLifter

TOM: I used to protect this shit, but seriously why? I mean yes I do care but damn this stuff works good, and it has been posted all over the place then tryed to be removed. Dante himself has said this stuff is old and doesn't set his trainees programs up like this anymore.

It's been my experience that once the word gets out at the local gyms, etc, on how a trainers program is set up, the personal trainer has to use savy tactics such as saying he has since added on to his training/diet methods to maintain his business.

kenwood · 02-19-2006, 11:44 PM

carry on please

IRON MAN · 02-19-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I thought you said he stole his ideas on training from you? Now you are giving him props?

I was only giving him credit were credit is due. I'm not a hater.I just speak what's on my mind and move on.

One day I look for him to give me credit for my 22 inch guns.

I do not know with 100% accuracy if DOGCRAPP stole my training ideas. His rest-pause method resembles mine but he may have built his version upon Mike Mentzers ideas as I did. My rest-pause method was being developed back in the early 80's but was not perfected until the mid-late 80's. I'll let the listening audience be the judge as to whether or not DOGCRAPP stole my 11-15 rep range/rest pause.

I'll go back over to my sub-forum now and stay out of this DRAMA..However, I would like to say it's quite refreshing to see that Dogcrapp is not able to bully IronMagazine members as he has done on other sites..

**Mudge** · 02-20-2006, 12:11 AM

Is it not possible for two, or more, people to have similar training theories? I dont see why not.

Its like guitarists, I hear similar licks all the time from different bands in different generes. There are only so many original ideas out there to be discovered.

Who invented the barbell or the dumbell curl? Should we say we are all haters and copycats because we dont know who to give credit to?

Frankly, who gives a shit. This is weightlifting and/or bodybuilding we are talking about, nobody is losing millions over this and nobodies ego should be shattered either. Just lift your damn weights and be happy, if someone else trains in a similar way WHO CARES.

Someone out there probably said someone stole his idea when he saw someone doing a squat, or a barbell pullover. Its damn ridiculous. I would hope we can live in a world where we can see the value in other peoples ideas without being called a thief.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-20-2006, 09:04 AM

Mudge and I once made great music together, but when he decided to steal my idea to utilize dumbbells from time to time rather than just using a barbell all the time, we parted ways. We haven't talked since and, to this day, I wonder if I may live to regret this decision.

**Mudge** · 02-20-2006, 09:06 AM

I was forced to accept the dumbells due to shoulder injury, the theft was unintentional!! Secretly, I know you liked it in the boot.

Tough Old Man · 02-20-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Is it not possible for two, or more, people to have similar training theories? I dont see why not.

Its like guitarists, I hear similar licks all the time from different bands in different generes. There are only so many original ideas out there to be discovered.

Who invented the barbell or the dumbell curl? Should we say we are all haters and copycats because we dont know who to give credit to?

Frankly, who gives a shit. This is weightlifting and/or bodybuilding we are talking about, nobody is losing millions over this and nobodies ego should be shattered either. Just lift your damn weights and be happy, if someone else trains in a similar way WHO CARES.

Someone out there probably said someone stole his idea when he saw someone doing a squat, or a barbell pullover. Its damn ridiculous. I would hope we can live in a world where we can see the value in other peoples ideas without being called a thief.

Your statements wouldn't hold water in Dante's eyes. He is demanding that Iron Man give hom credit for his training because they both use a Rest / Pause. Iron's rest / pause is a little different. It is for only the last set and only during the last 3 weeks of the program. Not only that it is to be done on anyone of the rep ranges as long as it's the last set. Also you only take 5 deep breaths and not 15.

I'm just glad we have Robert here as our owner / administrator who also won't let someone come over here and tear down his site like they did to Pro muscle whether there popular or not.

Thanks Robert

Tough

**Dale Mabry** · 02-20-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

I was forced to accept the dumbells due to shoulder injury, the theft was unintentional!! Secretly, I know you liked it in the boot.

Don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining Mudge. P-funk may believe your web of lies, but the truth shall set you free. Repent, and thou shalt be saved.

RippedNYLifter · 02-20-2006, 09:49 AM

Why don't you guys create a flaming forum for this stuff to get it out of your system? It seems like none of you can have a debate without flaming...

**gopro** · 02-20-2006, 10:26 AM

Uh oh...I just remembered...I talked about how I use rest-pause training in my last Iron Man magazine article on advanced P/RR/S training. Looks like we are going to have another new thread.........................

**Dale Mabry** · 02-20-2006, 10:31 AM

I don't understand what the hubub is all about. Most of the people coming up with "new" concepts are taking them from someone else's work anyway.

**CowPimp** · 02-20-2006, 10:49 AM

I invented weight lifting. I was lifting rocks so I could battle dinosaurs about 65 million years ago. I win. Thanks for playing.

DOGGCRAPP · 02-20-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

of course, you think he can come here and tell me what can be talked about, get real. carry on...

Robert I was trying to demand anything of you, I was just trying to put out the fire the best way I know how

DOGGCRAPP · 02-20-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IRON MAN

It's been my experience that once the word gets out at the local gyms, etc, on how a trainers program is set up, the personal trainer has to use savy tactics such as saying he has since added on to his training/diet methods to maintain his business.

really? even when that guy has said all over the place that he is kind of getting burnt out on training people and is removing himself slowly from it? Yea thats a great marketing ploy

min0 lee · 02-20-2006, 11:59 AM

Tough Old Man · 02-20-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Uh oh...I just remembered...I talked about how I use rest-pause training in my last Iron Man magazine article on advanced P/RR/S training. Looks like we are going to have another new thread.........................

Looks like you need to give Dante credit for your training. Oh wait you no longer use rest pause. Your safe from the evil Dante.

**P-funk** · 02-20-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DOGGCRAPP

really? even when that guy has said all over the place that he is kind of getting burnt out on training people and is removing himself slowly from it? Yea thats a great marketing ploy

if you are getting burnt out and trying to get away from trainin gpeople then why do you care if your program gets posted around?

**Prince** · 02-20-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DOGGCRAPP

Robert I was trying to demand anything of you, I was just trying to put out the fire the best way I know how

if that were true you never would have responded in this thread.

Tough Old Man · 02-20-2006, 12:27 PM

Dante you come over here and act like you did at P/M and the members here will tear you up. Then you'll know and feel like Iron Man did at P/M when you had all your buddies attack him over there.

There's pro trainers here that are real popular with the members and are not going to take your Dogg Crapp.

I remember how you bragged on P/M about how you could come over get what you wanted cause they have been after you for an interview here. You want you interview, post your training up and answered some questions. Wait you don't want to do that cause you might have to answered them instead of ducking them. I just saw a post by a guy on your site that asked you what your measurements are now. You ducked the question with this answered. I can't answered that now because of an injury I had 3 months ago.

Remember the question I asked you. Dante do you feel if you would have done more bicep work, your biceps might have grown more. You ducked it by deleting the post.

See the trainers here answered all questions and don't duck them. There's the difference between you and a real trainer. They answered the question with an answered.

Your right I don't like you. Your conceded, egotistical and a arrogant Mofo who just looks for things to pick on people with. You want credit, give some to Iron Man and Gopro for there rest / pause you stole from them.

Tough

TJ Cline · 02-20-2006, 12:30 PM

This is me after 5 weeks of DOGGCRAPP training....I am not only bigger and more ripped but I'm way sexy now also.

DOGGCRAPP · 02-20-2006, 12:32 PM

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I was only giving him credit were credit is due. I'm not a hater.I just speak what's on my mind and move on.

One day I look for him to give me credit for my 22 inch guns.

I do not know

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