Doggcrapp Training

NEW_MASS · 03-03-2006, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

IronMagazine is full of characters , you all keep me laughing

NEW_MASS · 03-03-2006, 06:47 AM

looks like Robert may need to clean house with the junk/spam Mods

and get some REAL SUPER MODS

up in here, what do you think Robert

IRON MAN · 03-03-2006, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Bahahaha. What a load of nonsense. Do you realize how badly this wreaks of BS?

Yes I do realize it sounds a bit akward if you were not been in my thread at Professional Muscle. Where you there? No! ToughOldMan, New Mass and several others knew what happened because they where there. DOGCRAPP kept acussing me of copying his rest-pause technique and if you read what I wrote above you can clearly see thats not he case. He kept sending his buddies over there to try and destroy my thread and eventually he pissed me off to the point I started out an article that had similar overtones. It was done in spite during a time he was attacking me and I'll bet money that over 50% of the people on this board would have done the same thing. It was a vengful act as I have stated and nothing else. Believe what you want to believe but thats the way it went down. If you choose to believe a lie then so be it.

NOTE: IRON MAN vs DOGCRAPP

1. DC preaches 1 set to failure twice a week and I believe in doing 3 sets twice a week.

2. DC believes in Extreme Stretching and I do not like this type of stretching as its bad for the joints.

3. DC performs multiple sets within a rest-pause until failure is reached in the 11-15 range. I teach one needs to hit failure in the 11-15 range "FIRST" and then use only 1 rest pause as opposed to his multiples.

4. He doesn't believe in isolation exercises but I do for lagging body parts.

5. His split does not change after a 3 week phase yet mine does.

6. He teaches cruising and I do not believe in cruise but taking complete lay offs.

7. I preach one must hit all 3 sub-categories of type 2 fibers. He does not teach a holostic rep range.

8. He believes that natural trainers need the same large amounts of protein as the chemically enhanced. I do notagree because steroids enhance protein synthesis.

9. The way he splits his bodyparts up are different than mine.

10. He believe deadlifts can be substituted for rows and I do not.

11. DC does not believe in using rest-pause for training the legs but the IRONMAN program does on weeks 4-6.

12. DC teaches static holds and other Mentzer principles that I wouldnt follow in a million years.

13. He believe large dosages of testosterone are whats making Pro Bodybuilders so large but in my experience they are using a synergistic approach.

NOTE: I could add more but I feel that is ample evidence showing how different our training techniques look on paper. THEY ARE NOTHING A LIKE!

IRON MAN · 03-03-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NEW_MASS

looks like Robert may need to clean house with the junk/spam Mods

and get some REAL SUPER MODS

up in here, what do you think Robert

Agreed.

Tough Old Man · 03-03-2006, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW_MASS

looks like Robert may need to clean house with the junk/spam Mods

and get some REAL SUPER MODS

up in here, what do you think Robert

Oh I disagree totally here with you mass. Iron Magazine has some of the finest Super mods on the net. You'll never find them any better then Gopro, DG806 and Mudge. If you'll notice these guys have stayed away from this thread.

It's the moderators, not super moderators you may be thinking of.

PT

KC Lifter · 03-03-2006, 07:48 AM

This is just my opinion but I really don't see how someone can say Ironman's routine is a copy from DC. I only see a couple of things that they both have and that's far from copying. Untill you can patent anything to do with a training routine this case is closed.

**Prince** · 03-03-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NEW_MASS

looks like Robert may need to clean house with the junk/spam Mods

and get some REAL SUPER MODS

up in here, what do you think Robert

nope, I am happy with all of my mods, but thanks for the concern.

NEW_MASS · 03-03-2006, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Oh I disagree totally here with you mass. Iron Magazine has some of the finest Super mods on the net. You'll never find them any better then Gopro, DG806 and Mudge. If you'll notice these guys have stayed away from this thread.

It's the moderators, not super moderators you may be thinking of.

PT

True i should have said moderators, your right the Super Mods have been showing they are on another level

NEW_MASS · 03-03-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

nope, I am happy with all of my mods, but thanks for the concern.

well let them know TOUGH TOM is always available(due to being retired) to fill one of their slots if they can't keep their shit together

Tough Old Man · 03-03-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NEW_MASS

well let them know TOUGH TOM is always available(due to being retired) to fill one of their slots if they can't keep their shit together

Remember I have multiple personalities. Robert to have the same amount of mod's would have to get rid of three to make room for just me. I don't know of three bad mod's on here.

Tough Old Man · 03-03-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IRON MAN

NOTE: IRON MAN vs DOGCRAPP

1. DC preaches 1 set to failure twice a week and I believe in doing 3 sets twice a week.

2. DC believes in Extreme Stretching and I do not like this type of stretching as its bad for the joints.

3. DC performs multiple sets within a rest-pause until failure is reached in the 11-15 range. I teach one needs to hit failure in the 11-15 range "FIRST" and then use only 1 rest pause as opposed to his multiples.

4. He doesn't believe in isolation exercises but I do for lagging body parts.

5. His split does not change after a 3 week phase yet mine does.

6. He teaches cruising and I do not believe in cruise but taking complete lay offs.

7. I preach one must hit all 3 sub-categories of type 2 fibers. He does not teach a holostic rep range.

8. He believes that natural trainers need the same large amounts of protein as the chemically enhanced. I do notagree because steroids enhance protein synthesis. IN CFP HE HAS TOLD OTHERS THAT THEY DON'T NEED AS MUCH PROTEIN AS THE ONE'S ON SUPER SUPPS.

9. The way he splits his bodyparts up are different than mine.

10. He believe deadlifts can be substituted for rows and I do not.

11. DC does not believe in using rest-pause for training the legs but the IRONMAN program does on weeks 4-6. HE ADVISES ON THE USE OF A WINDOW MAKER (20 REPS) FOR LEGS SOMETIMES. THERE'S NO WAY ONE CAN PERFORM THAT EXERCISE WITHOUT USING A REST PAUSE

12. DC teaches static holds and other Mentzer principles that I wouldnt follow in a million years.

13. He believe large dosages of testosterone are whats making Pro Bodybuilders so large but in my experience they are using a synergistic approach.

NOTE: I could add more but I feel that is ample evidence showing how different our training techniques look on paper. THEY ARE NOTHING A LIKE!

Iron Man some of these are not totally correct. The only reason I can say that as I have use the DC system in the pass. I type in bold

**Prince** · 03-03-2006, 10:10 AM

I do not see any reason for this thread to go on any longer...

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