Bench Progression

**CowPimp** · 02-26-2006, 11:48 PM

The point is that there is no way to accruately estimate what you're asking.

Lifeguard Dan · 02-27-2006, 12:15 AM

Gotcha. Thanks and (duh) to me for not realizing that lol.

**Mudge** · 02-27-2006, 09:12 AM

Get to workin' those legs man.

Lifeguard Dan · 02-27-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Get to workin' those legs man.

I do work my legs. Upper body 3x/wk and lower body 3x/wk.

Lifeguard Dan · 02-27-2006, 08:21 PM

1RM now 345...

soxmuscle · 02-27-2006, 11:48 PM

why are you all about the one rep max?

TJ Cline · 02-28-2006, 12:11 AM

My bench went up 40lbs this month....thats 18 months in a row now with that gain per month.

Lifeguard Dan · 02-28-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

why are you all about the one rep max?

I'm training to do a bench press competition, and that's only one of two exercises people ask about. I do train many other muscles/muscle groups. Foreman if you have nothing but idiot comments to say go elsewhere, ok?

Steele20 · 02-28-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lifeguard Dan

1RM now 345...

He's still not even at 150%.

dontsurfonmytur · 02-28-2006, 10:49 AM

when i first started i did 65-75 pounds, rep 6-8
Now i can rep 175 6-8 rep, almost one year sine i started to workout. so 100 lbs isnt impossible in one year. (i know i just started, but just making a point)

TJ Cline · 02-28-2006, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

when i first started i did 65-75 pounds, rep 6-8
Now i can rep 175 6-8 rep, almost one year sine i started to workout. so 100 lbs isnt impossible in one year. (i know i just started, but just making a point)

For a beginner a 100lb bench press increase in the first year is average......almost anybody can do that, I have watched dozens of guys come in the gym and bench 100lbs and by the next year they can hit 200.

MeatheadSam · 02-28-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Steele20

He's still not even at 150%.

At a body weight of 235 a single rep max without gear of 345 might deliver 385 with gear if you are following correct power lifting form to produce 345.

Remember that in contest you will be required to lower the bar under control and pause until you get the green light to lift and your butt must not come off the bench.

I do not know your age group but realize that others of similar body weight will be delivering 500 plus bench presses and they will still be well below what the strongest lifters will produce.

When I was in the military a 340 bench at #165 bodyweight put me in the middle of the pack and the strongest guy in my category was pushing 432.5. I did not have gear so my lift could have been better with the shirt.

Good luck!

MeatheadSam · 02-28-2006, 11:18 AM

Just fun information.... pulled this from the powerlifting records.

Keep in mind these are world records not what you might see at a small local competition.

The dude in your weight category in senior division pushed 282.5 kilos (621.5lbs).

52kg Andrzej Stanaszek 1971 POL 50.00 182.5 05.11.2003 Vejle DEN
56kg Konstantin Pavlov 1973 RUS 56.00 190.0 19.05.2005 Hamm LUX
60kg Ayrat Zakiev 1981 RUS 59.71 210.0 19.05.2005 Hamm LUX
67.5kg Ravil Kazakov 1982 RUS 67.20 232.5 10.11.2005 Miami USA
75kg Wade Hooper 1971 USA 74.80 232.5 17.07.2005 Duisburg GER
82.5kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 82.03 255.0 20.05.2005 Hamm LUX
90kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 84.75 263.0 19.07.2005 Duisburg GER
100kg Ivan Freydun 1981 UKR 99.60 290.0 12.11.2005 Miami USA
110kg Nikolay Suslov 1979 RUS 109.80 282.5 12.11.2005 Miami USA
125kg Yevgen Yarymbash 1983 UKR 123.80 325.0 13.11.2005 Miami USA
125+kg Daisuke Midote 1972 JPN 136.00 350.5 13.11.2005 Miami USA

Lifeguard Dan · 02-28-2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatheadSam

At a body weight of 235 a single rep max without gear of 345 might deliver 385 with gear if you are following correct power lifting form to produce 345.

Remember that in contest you will be required to lower the bar under control and pause until you get the green light to lift and your butt must not come off the bench.

I do not know your age group but realize that others of similar body weight will be delivering 500 plus bench presses and they will still be well below what the strongest lifters will produce.

When I was in the military a 340 bench at #165 bodyweight put me in the middle of the pack and the strongest guy in my category was pushing 432.5. I did not have gear so my lift could have been better with the shirt.

Good luck!

I'm 26 and this is the first time in my life I've lifted seriously. I'm only gonna do the competition for fun. I assume by "gear" you mean a compression shirt or something. I don't believe in them as they aren't true IMO of what the lifter can do BY HIM/HER-SELF. That's another story tho...

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

For a beginner a 100lb bench press increase in the first year is average......almost anybody can do that

Wow....hypocrite. Saying that after you basically accuse me of taking steroids.

So which is it then?

TJ Cline · 02-28-2006, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifeguard Dan

I'm 26 and this is the first time in my life I've lifted seriously. I'm only gonna do the competition for fun. I assume by "gear" you mean a compression shirt or something. I don't believe in them as they aren't true IMO of what the lifter can do BY HIM/HER-SELF. That's another story tho...

Wow....hypocrite. Saying that after you basically accuse me of taking steroids.

So which is it then?

#1. I am not accusing you of using steroids.....I'm accusing you of being a troll

#2. 1 100lb gain on the bench press from ground zero ( in 12 months ) is 1,000,000 miles away from a troll claiming to gain 100lbs on his bench naturally in 4 months......and that is from a trained 225 max....not a total beginner 100-150 max.

#3. You are a joke and full of shit son

Lifeguard Dan · 02-28-2006, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

#1. I am not accusing you of using steroids.....I'm accusing you of being a troll

#2. 1 100lb gain on the bench press from ground zero ( in 12 months ) is 1,000,000 miles away from a troll claiming to gain 100lbs on his bench naturally in 4 months......and that is from a trained 225 max....not a total beginner 100-150 max.

#3. You are a joke and full of shit son

#1. I'm not a "troll" or whatever that is.

#2. It wasn't a "trained 225 max" I did a lot of pushups and that's what I could do when I started, but being as smart as you apparently are you must've known that already. Whatever, where's your PhD in Applied Physiology?

#3. You are a jackass and need to get a life. Seriously 30k+ posts on an internet forum...in less than a year. That's an average of ~ 110 to 115 per day. Kinda hard to actually do anything other than type on a keyboard and I'd bet that leaves you winded. The fact that you "know" so much is one of the reasons why this'll be one of my last posts on these forums. If there's one idiot like you on here there's gotta be lots more. Have a nice life, idiot.

TJ Cline · 02-28-2006, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifeguard Dan

#1. I'm not a "troll" or whatever that is.

#2. It wasn't a "trained 225 max" I did a lot of pushups and that's what I could do when I started, but being as smart as you apparently are you must've known that already. Whatever, where's your PhD in Applied Physiology?

#3. You are a jackass and need to get a life. Seriously 30k+ posts on an internet forum...in less than a year. That's an average of ~ 110 to 115 per day. Kinda hard to actually do anything other than type on a keyboard and I'd bet that leaves you winded. The fact that you "know" so much is one of the reasons why this'll be one of my last posts on these forums. If there's one idiot like you on here there's gotta be lots more. Have a nice life, idiot.

JOHNYORK · 03-04-2006, 09:46 AM

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02-28-2006, 12:11 AM	#37
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02-28-2006, 11:18 AM	#43
MeatheadSam Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 169	Just fun information.... pulled this from the powerlifting records. Keep in mind these are world records not what you might see at a small local competition. The dude in your weight category in senior division pushed 282.5 kilos (621.5lbs). 52kg Andrzej Stanaszek 1971 POL 50.00 182.5 05.11.2003 Vejle DEN 56kg Konstantin Pavlov 1973 RUS 56.00 190.0 19.05.2005 Hamm LUX 60kg Ayrat Zakiev 1981 RUS 59.71 210.0 19.05.2005 Hamm LUX 67.5kg Ravil Kazakov 1982 RUS 67.20 232.5 10.11.2005 Miami USA 75kg Wade Hooper 1971 USA 74.80 232.5 17.07.2005 Duisburg GER 82.5kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 82.03 255.0 20.05.2005 Hamm LUX 90kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 84.75 263.0 19.07.2005 Duisburg GER 100kg Ivan Freydun 1981 UKR 99.60 290.0 12.11.2005 Miami USA 110kg Nikolay Suslov 1979 RUS 109.80 282.5 12.11.2005 Miami USA 125kg Yevgen Yarymbash 1983 UKR 123.80 325.0 13.11.2005 Miami USA 125+kg Daisuke Midote 1972 JPN 136.00 350.5 13.11.2005 Miami USA
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02-27-2006, 12:15 AM	#32
Lifeguard Dan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22	Gotcha. Thanks and (duh) to me for not realizing that lol.

02-27-2006, 08:21 PM	#35
Lifeguard Dan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22	1RM now 345...

02-28-2006, 10:49 AM	#40
dontsurfonmytur Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,013	when i first started i did 65-75 pounds, rep 6-8 Now i can rep 175 6-8 rep, almost one year sine i started to workout. so 100 lbs isnt impossible in one year. (i know i just started, but just making a point)

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