Thread: 'Big Basic Exercises'

bench press
shoulder press

rows
pull ups
pull downs

Squat, clean and jerk, deadly

Originally Posted by Dipsh!t

Squat, clean and jerk, deadly

those are lower body exercises dipshit.

Deadlifts-shoulders back traps forearms

Originally Posted by WantItBad

Deadlifts-shoulders back traps forearms

only isometrically.

deadlifts= hip extension

why do people swear by deads for back training? just wondering

Originally Posted by WantItBad

why do people swear by deads for back training? just wondering

because your lower back is still getting worked also. but, the prime mover is hip extension.

dips!

Thanks for the feedback.

I like standing shoulder presses.

Originally Posted by P-funk

only isometrically.

deadlifts= hip extension

So if something is worked isometrically it doesn't count...?

Power straights, core/trunk work, prisoners walks.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

So if something is worked isometrically it doesn't count...?

Power straights, core/trunk work, prisoners walks.

what??

read what I wrote.....The deadlift wouldn't be considered a back exercise in my book because the prime mover are the hip extensors....even though the back is making an isometric contraction. So, I would not consider it an upper body pull exercise. Same holds true for a BB row. You are holding your hip extensors in one long RDL isometric contraction. But, I don't consider it a lower body exercises. Where did I say that if something is isometric it doesn't count? All I was saying was pick your exerises based on the prime movers.

My abs are tight when I bench and squat....maybe I should do them for ab work??

Well when you said 'only isometrically' I inferred that you almost didn't consider those muscles involved because they didn't necessarily contract. It was just how I interpreted its meaning, that's all. In my book compound movements are great for the abs because that's all I need them to do. Of course, I'm a freak, but the poster didn't ask specifically for growth either.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Well when you said 'only isometrically' I inferred that you almost didn't consider those muscles involved because they didn't necessarily contract. It was just how I interpreted its meaning, that's all. In my book compound movements are great for the abs because that's all I need them to do. Of course, I'm a freak, but the poster didn't ask specifically for growth either.

I think you are over complicating things.

you almost didn't consider those muscles involved because they didn't necessarily contract.

um..they did contract....isometrically, like i said.

I also like dips a lot to add to P-funk's list. Upright rows are alright too. Also, I feel pullovers are a pretty good exercise, although they are not technically compound. Nonetheless, they still involve several major muscle groups.

Variations of the movements are great too. Using cables, dumbbells, changing the angle of inclination, etc.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I think you are over complicating things.



um..they did contract....isometrically, like i said.

Nevermind. It just seemed like you were correcting him because you said they were lower body exercises, which seems pretty inaccurate. Obviously most of the work is being performed by the lower body, but none of those lifts would be respectable without decent upper body development.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Nevermind. It just seemed like you were correcting him because you said they were lower body exercises, which seems pretty inaccurate. Obviously most of the work is being performed by the lower body, but none of those lifts would be respectable without decent upper body development.

hence the reason why it is virtually impossible to break things up and train body parts and also why we don't reccommend it. But, if you are going to do it like that...or even do push/pull/legs, I would put the deadlift on legs day since it is a lower body exercises being that the prime mover is hip extension. I don't see how that is inaccurate at all?

Originally Posted by P-funk

hence the reason why it is virtually impossible to break things up and train body parts and also why we don't reccommend it. But, if you are going to do it like that...or even do push/pull/legs, I would put the deadlift on legs day since it is a lower body exercises being that the prime mover is hip extension. I don't see how that is inaccurate at all?

I only meant that calling it a lower body exercise seemed inaccurate. If you were to put it on a day, it would of course be lower body, but it could still count as also working upper body muscles, that's all I was really saying. I'm not actually trying to be difficult.