Thread: Help with shoulder routine

Originally Posted by mrmark

I used to start with military press (going to the chest) which worked really well but recently i've plateaud.

I started doing upright dumbell press (seated) but I'm having trouble lifting the heavy dumbells up. There's often no1 at the gym at the time I go so should I be doing something else 1st?

I saw Cutler do medial raise before pressing. Would this be a good idea? Is pre-fatiguing a bad idea because I want to gain mass.

Any help would be much appreciated.

For all heavy dumbell work I lift them to my knees and then use them to bounce the weight up.....works well on incline db work.....for seated db press I just clean them from the floor then sit down to press them.

I usually kind of clean them into place before I do them. If I do seated DB pressing, then I might set them on my knee and kick them upward. However, I have been sticking with standing for quite a while now.

Ok, cheers. Do you agree that I should be doing this 1st to build mass?

why don't you start doing some power lifting traing

b/t 4/6 rep range
3 sets
say 45 sec / 1 min rest

or you can do

20 reps normal weight
15 reps with a heavier load
10 reps extra load
5 reps almost max load
3 sets max

why not switch up your loading parameters and incorporate a different exercise entirely like push presses.