Asa you gain more muscle mass in the chest area you should notice more muscle in the area. Not because muscle is specifically growing over the sternum, but because all that muscle has to go somewhere. Takes a while though.
Eggs
I've been workin out since Jan and have 'always' wanted to close the gap in my chest especially the bit at the bottom, Yes between the nips (see attach pic taken about 3 weeks ago). Question: Will this gap close in time and mass? Is there a way to specifically target that spot? eg; decline press or flys.
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Asa you gain more muscle mass in the chest area you should notice more muscle in the area. Not because muscle is specifically growing over the sternum, but because all that muscle has to go somewhere. Takes a while though.
Eggs
There's no way to change the shape of a muscle, but as the muscle grows larger it will become less noticable - to an extent. You'll always notice it, but it just won;t be as apparent when the muscle is bigger.
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Its like this...
Put a 1/2lb steak on your plate... looks kind of small.
Now put a kilo of steak on your plate. Fills up a bit more space doesnt it? The plate is like your chest, the meat is the muscle over it.
Everybody always says genetics, and its true to a degree. But I've seen some whacky looking guys devote time to lifting and come away with great bodies.
Eggs
That was the worst analogy i've ever seen
Shape is determined by insertion points and where the muscle joins to the tendon. Only way to change that is via surgery.
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Yeah, I was thinking how bad it sucked when I was writing itOh well, I'm not paid for this (thank god).
Yeah, but theres more to the way a muscle looks than where muscle joins the tendon. Mass goes a long ways. It may not get you to the Olympia... oh wait, never mind.
Eggs
"Yeah, but theres more to the way a muscle looks than where muscle joins the tendon."
What do you mean by this?
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You cannot change the origin and insertion points of a muscle, but you can work to make it less noticable by building mass in that area.
In order to do this I recommend the following superset in each of your chest workouts...
-decline CABLE flyes/medium grip decline press
or...
-decline CABLE flyes/decline dumbell press
Concentrate and squeeze hard during the contraction.
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Thats what I mean TCD.
I see.
*cough* bullshit *cough*
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Honestly, you will never really change the way your chest looks.
If you get your pec bigger they might appear to be closer, but they will always be shaped that way, and have a gap.
btw, it looks fine, other than the monkey hair!![]()
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Do you guys think that decline sets are important (rate from one to ten) im doing flat bed bench, incline (sorry bout the touchy subject) and flat bed flys.
Its been said that decline are the best exercise for chest development, it being the natural movement of the pec muscle's.
Incline I would have to say is the worst because of to much shoulder involvment.
I think that its important to use all 3 though for a full chest workout.
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LOL, sorry TCD Would it help if I said I HATE inclines?!?
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No, cause you don't mean it.
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Honest!!! where's my kiss???![]()
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Even if i did kiss you, you'd be thinking of inclines the whole time...
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Well, from a bodybuilding standpoint hair does not exactly accentuate muscle.Originally posted by peetrips
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Do you guys think that decline sets are important (rate from one to ten) im doing flat bed bench, incline (sorry bout the touchy subject) and flat bed flys.
If I could do only 1 chest exercise for life, it would be low incline presses on a smith...my chest is my best bodypart, and it has been built primarily through incline movements. I am not sure if I have ever done a decline press in my life...well, maybe once, but I dropped them fast.
But anyway, if you want to help that lower inner pec area, do the routine I listed above.
And by the way...when TCD starts kissing other men, I'm outta here!
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Thank God for small favors!Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
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ditto to gopro,
due to the nature of the fiber direction in the pecs, the only real solution (if any) is to hit the upper chest, as the developement there will cause an overlapping effect, "filling in" the gap. Though this is my suggestion, quite a few guys w/ awesome chest developement have never filled that gap completely. Good luck
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Cornfed, what on earth are you on about?
And Scotty, you missed your opportunity...
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Huh? Uhhhh... I may have been half asleep and misread earlier posts. I hope... either that or I had a serious brain fart. I...errr... awww screw it. Maybe I am losing it.Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Cornfed, what on earth are you on about?
let me rephrase...
Upper/mid pec developement will eventually translate down, filling in the gaps in the lower/inner chest. I did not mean to imply that decline is useless, cause I love it and use it. My point is that due to the angle of the fibers, the idea that decline is the key to fill in that space is bunk. You cannot isolate the inner chest at any point IMHO. It's merely a question of total mass and genetics (which can be overcome to an extent and trust me, I'm a victim of the same low/inner pec void). To best "fill that in", it is necessary to build the pecs w/ emphasis on the upper/mid area, whose mass is eventually forced down, creating a roll-over effect. That's my belief on the issue, as unorthodox as some may view it to be. That's JMO.
Peace
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What??? you lost me when you started taking inner outter???
LOL,just kidding!
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I hope I haven't made an even bigger ass of myself than normal. I have to fill a quota of assinine comments/day, but I try not to exceed it by too much. LOL
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"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
--- Zakk Wylde ---
---Dimebag Darrel RIP---
I will continue to preach that you can affect fibers in certain portions of muscles, and over time achieve a more balanced look. No matter what TCD says, lol. I have done it, have seen it done, and will continue to do so....ALL WITHIN REASON and within genetic parameters.
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