Primordialperformance.com


How low can you go

Results 1 to 19 of 19
  1. #1
    Here for a minute

    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    US
    Posts
    220
    Rep Points
    120904

    How low can you go

    How far down do you go on your Squats?

    Personally I go til my hams hit my calfs.

    Go Deep or go home!
    Tazman

    Shut up and Train!

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    7,008
    Rep Points
    -1157878

    Totally depends on the weight IMO.

    At lighter weights (225-315) I'll go that low, but at higher weights I think it causes unecessary stress. Even with wraps I wouldnt recommend it. 90 degrees or just a tad lower is all I recommend for the heavier weights.

    Eggs

  3. #3
    I'm Dead Sexxxxy!!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Scotty the Body's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    4,970
    Rep Points
    3488440

    You only need to go to 90 or just past; ass to the grass isn’t necessary for good leg development and can lead to injury.
    Why bother doing something if no good is gonna come out of it.
    Cool

  4. #4
    Here for a minute

    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    US
    Posts
    220
    Rep Points
    120904

    I used to go to 90. When I started to go below 90 my quads started growing again. I guess what ever works for you. My legs seem to respond better to higher reps.
    Tazman

    Shut up and Train!

  5. #5
    Designer Supplements

    Robboe's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Newcastle
    Posts
    5,141
    Rep Points
    3607030

    Scotty that's not true.

    The length of my thighs in relation to my upper body and legs prevent me from going ATF - the mechanics just don't work - especially since i have poor ankle flexibilty. I can only go to parallel, although i'd love to do ATF.

    There is nothing to say that ATF squats have higher affinity for injury, in fact i'd say that the opposite is probably more true.

    either way, as long as people are squatting and they aren't 1/4 squats, then it's all good...
    Being held down by The Man

  6. #6
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,762
    Rep Points
    1602625391


    If it does not bother your knees then go deep.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Dallas, Texas
    Posts
    15
    Rep Points
    10

    You'll have some balance issues. Depending on where you have the bar and how much weight you put on it. If you do full squats and do not have proper balance, you will more than likely lean onto your toes. Very bad for the back. So in my opinion, you should go as far below parallel as you can and still be able to push up with your heals.

  8. #8
    I'm Dead Sexxxxy!!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Scotty the Body's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    4,970
    Rep Points
    3488440

    Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
    Scotty that's not true.

    The length of my thighs in relation to my upper body and legs prevent me from going ATF - the mechanics just don't work - especially since i have poor ankle flexibilty. I can only go to parallel, although i'd love to do ATF.

    There is nothing to say that ATF squats have higher affinity for injury, in fact i'd say that the opposite is probably more true.

    either way, as long as people are squatting and they aren't 1/4 squats, then it's all good...
    OK, so I'm a liar now, where's my kiss???

    K I think I might have the same problem as you with the thighs relation to upper body cause I can't even to ATF with little to no weight right.
    Cool

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Posts
    23
    Rep Points
    46672

    For the balance thing when going deep do you find it better to lift your heels on a 10lb plate?

  10. #10
    I'm the daddy
    ELITE MEMBER

    Fade's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Houston, Tx
    Posts
    3,007
    Rep Points
    2375125

    Ass to the floor will use more ham and glute. So if you have the tendancy to have a big ass then just go to 90deg.

  11. #11
    Designer Supplements

    Robboe's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Newcastle
    Posts
    5,141
    Rep Points
    3607030

    I don;t agree with elevating the heels for squats. It puts the quad in a stronger position, but also the hamstring in a weaker position which has a tendancy towards injury, not to mention than it causes more sheer in the knee.

    Scotty, yeah me either. I probably could on the smith, but then again, I am anti-smith.

    Fade, i'm proud of my squat ass
    Being held down by The Man

  12. #12
    Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Here
    Posts
    127
    Rep Points
    10

    Depends on the goal.

    If I want to hit the hams and glutes, I take a wide stance and go to parallel. If quads are more the target, I take shoulder-width or a tad wider and go to the floor.

  13. #13
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,762
    Rep Points
    1602625391


    I do not believe in elevating heels either. Nor do I believe in a wide stance, not for bodybuilding anyway.

    I think going deep is fine as long as it does not bother your knees, it does some poeple.

  14. #14
    P/RR/Sh Warrior

    Tank316's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Barron,Wi
    Posts
    4,535
    Rep Points
    1540498

    Originally posted by ActionMatt
    Depends on the goal.

    If I want to hit the hams and glutes, I take a wide stance and go to parallel. If quads are more the target, I take shoulder-width or a tad wider and go to the floor.
    ditto AM..thats about what i do
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau!

  15. #15
    Here for a minute

    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    US
    Posts
    220
    Rep Points
    120904

    For me in the pass I didn't think I could go below parrell due to balance. When I picked a spot on the wall above eye level and focus the balance kicked in and I was able to go ATF. Worth a try on next squat session I guess.
    Tazman

    Shut up and Train!

  16. #16
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Over here.
    Posts
    20
    Rep Points
    10

    I've always gone "ass-to-the-grass" and have never had any problems. Recently I had a hamstring injury, and when I healed enough to try squats, I did a couple of workouts to almost parallell with light weights. Now my knees are sore as hell, and one is giving off a popping, grinding sound. Damned if I know what's up, but I think I'll rest for a couple of weeks and give a2g a try.

  17. #17
    UCSB Student

    Lightman009's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Santa Barbara, CA
    Posts
    300
    Rep Points
    664869

    I had really bad tendinitis in my knees and in high school I was in the advanced pe class with all the football players and they had us go parallel to floor which ultimately aggravated my knees and I was almost forced to stop doing them because of the pain. Now, I am very leary of any squats because Im afraid I will re-injure my knees.
    Just Shut Up and LIFT.

  18. #18
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    26
    Rep Points
    10

    I only go aas low as necessary for powerlifting comps... unless im doing a box-squat day, then its a little lower

  19. #19
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Albuquerque, NM
    Posts
    171
    Rep Points
    103510

    Lately I've been going ATF. I've NEVER seen anyone in my gym go below parallel, and only a handful have gone to parallel. I think as you maintain good form then going ATF is just as safe as parallel.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


DISCLAIMER:
All health, fitness, diet, nutrition & supplement information presented on IronMagazineForums.com's pages is intended as an educational resource and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website. As well as any exercise technique or regimen, diet, supplement, etc., particularly if you are pregnant or nursing, or if you are elderly or have chronic or recurring medical conditions. Discontinue any exercise that causes you pain or severe discomfort and consult a medical expert. The statements made about products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (U.S.). They are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any condition or disease. Please consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made at IronMagazineForums.com. Neither the author of the information, nor the producer, nor distributors of such information make any warranty of any kind in regard to the content of the information presented on this website. Except as specifically stated on this site, neither IronMagazineForums.com, nor any of its authors or other representatives will be liable for damages arising out of, or in connection with the use of this site. This is a comprehensive limitation of liability that applies to all damages of any kind, including (without limitation) compensatory, direct, indirect or consequential damages, loss of data, income or profit, loss of or damage to property and claims of third parties. Sponsors pay for advertising space, we have no affiliation with the companies that have banners displayed on our websites. Please be advised it is your responsibility to check the laws that govern your country, state, or province in regards to items offered by some companies you may read about on this site.