Need your help!

IRON MAN · 03-11-2006, 01:10 PM

The IRON MAN sub-forum is here to offer support as I am genuinely interested in the success of others. Please understand I need others ideas so the IRON MAN training program can continue to GROW. The internet is choke-full of egotistical know it alls and the IRON MAN program is distancing itself from that type of behaviour. My forum is open to new ideas.

Instead of me challenging others to give my program a try, I am asking you to give me your ideas on ways to improve my training methods.

We are all in this together and the IRON MAN principles where built upon input from others, not just my personal experiences. If interested please go to me FAQ section and post any ideas you might have that could help the IRON MAN program excel so we can eliminate any "scatchy" elements in the program.

THANK YOU

Tough Old Man · 03-12-2006, 03:30 PM

I'll post an idea which I'll be the guinea pig and try. We need you to be there more often as it seems you have been on vacation 3 off and 1 on lately

IRON MAN · 03-12-2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I'll post an idea which I'll be the guinea pig and try. We need you to be there more often as it seems you have been on vacation 3 off and 1 on lately

I've had so much to do but I it will slow down.

Your already know what to do anyways.

IRON MAN · 03-13-2006, 08:42 PM

The truth of the matter is I know deep down the IRON MAN program can not be improved. My real concerns are getting other trainers to Overcome being Indecisive. Chronic Indecision creates stress and confusion. You are, in fact divided against yourself.

In bodybuilding, the indecisional trainer is a disaster! This conflict leads to tension, which in turn inhibits positive decision making. Its the most vicious of cycles. The bodybuilder neither gains from success nor from set back. Afraid to err, he or she never learns from mistakes. His paralysis can sink himself and others around him. Some resort to pseudo-decisions rushed and arbitrary stances that lack commitment or follow-through. But they arent real decisions unless they are free, unconditional, total and personal..My statements in the first post where to encourgace this type of behaviour so everyone would feel a part in making their own decisions. My wish for others is to encourage action relatively fast..and engender no regrets, rage or emptiness afterwards.

Another problem I am seeing is the notion you can build the body of your dreams without paying a price. But every true decision exacts a price: Taking steroids, diet restrictions etc. So the dreaming bodybuilder remains inert, refusing to choose, like a child in a candy store.

To overcome indeciseveness, you must first combat self hatred by ridding yourself of self-glorification. You must realize you have human limitations-and that one of those is making an occasional poor choice. At the same time, it's important to take stock of real assets such as the talents GODS has bestowed upon you.

Editors Note: To become a decision maker about what routine and diet you should be following you must accept what I refer to as (THE BIG FACT); In many instances one decision is actually no better than the other. Unless your a bodybuilder deciding on which routine/diet to follow, it probably doesn't matter what you choose much of the time. This is particulary true in relationships. When paralzed by fear the best course is to meet the fear head on. After you've failed a few times, you will be desensitized to all the HOOP LA- and finally be free to choose a training program that really works. If anyone can show me a more productive routine than the IRON MAN "HIT" I will convert over. Thats a promise!!

**Dale Mabry** · 03-13-2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRON MAN

In bodybuilding, the indecisional trainer is a disaster!

Indecisional isn't a word, I believe you are looking for indecisive.

IRON MAN · 03-13-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Indecisional isn't a word, I believe you are looking for indecisive.

Are you sure? One of my favorite workout songs has a chorus that goes like this ( I don't wanna be I don't wanna be I don't wanna to be I don't wanna be INDECISIONAL)

Adamjs · 03-13-2006, 09:27 PM

No entry found for INDECISIONAL.

Did you mean IN DECISIONAL?
Suggestions:
IN DECISIONAL
IN-DECISIONAL
INDECISION AL
INDECISION-AL
INCISIONAL
INDECISION
INDECISION'S
INTERCESSIONAL
INDUCTIONAL
INTENSIONAL

No entry was found in the dictionary. Would you like to search the Web for INDECISIONAL?

IRON MAN · 03-14-2006, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamjs

No entry found for INDECISIONAL.

Did you mean IN DECISIONAL?
Suggestions:
IN DECISIONAL
IN-DECISIONAL
INDECISION AL
INDECISION-AL
INCISIONAL
INDECISION
INDECISION'S
INTERCESSIONAL
INDUCTIONAL
INTENSIONAL

No entry was found in the dictionary. Would you like to search the Web for INDECISIONAL?

YES SIR.

**CowPimp** · 03-14-2006, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRON MAN

The truth of the matter is I know deep down the IRON MAN program can not be improved.

A little overconfident maybe, don't you think? Not to bash your program, but stating that it cannot be improved is a little ridiculous...

TheCurse · 03-14-2006, 03:09 PM

its time for ludicrous speed ..

**Dale Mabry** · 03-14-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCurse

its time for ludicrous speed ..

Honestly, if it had any benefit to me, I could improve your program by letting you in on the fact that you don't train Type IIB fibers, they are almost instantaneously converted to IIA with any form of training, the group with the highest percentage of IIB fibers is people who don't train. But, like I said, it doesn't benefit me.

**P-funk** · 03-14-2006, 06:25 PM

lay out the basic template with out all the riff raff in that thread in your forum. there is to much stuff to read in there. Just lay out the template.

**Dale Mabry** · 03-14-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

lay out the basic template with out all the riff raff in that thread in your forum. there is to much stuff to read in there. Just lay out the template.

IRON MAN, this is a very good idea, you should make a thread like this so that peeps can get a general idea as to the thing without having to waft thru 500 questions.

TJ Cline · 03-14-2006, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRON MAN

The internet is choke-full of egotistical know it alls

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Indecisional isn't a word, I believe you are looking for indecisive.

TJ Cline · 03-14-2006, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRON MAN

The truth of the matter is I know deep down the IRON MAN program can not be improved.

My brain just exploded

IRON MAN · 03-14-2006, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowPimp

A little overconfident maybe, don't you think? Not to bash your program, but stating that it cannot be improved is a little ridiculous...

Okay then show me what can be improved. If you can help make an improvement I will be very gateful..

Any suggestions?

**P-funk** · 03-14-2006, 07:41 PM

post the template! I am not going to read through all the bull shit about why you made it up etc.....Just post the basic template.

IRON MAN · 03-14-2006, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

lay out the basic template with out all the riff raff in that thread in your forum. there is to much stuff to read in there. Just lay out the template.

Now this sounds like something I am interested in doing.

We are all in this together and I value others opinions. It may be hard to improve but definetly not impossible. I'm a striving perfectionist when it comes to training methods. So if you have anymore suggestions I am all ears.

**P-funk** · 03-14-2006, 07:50 PM

read the stickies.

IRON MAN · 03-14-2006, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

IRON MAN, this is a very good idea, you should make a thread like this so that peeps can get a general idea as to the thing without having to waft thru 500 questions.

Can you please be more specific? I understand what P-FUNK is saying about the training routine. Ive added a whole lot of riff-raff to try and explain why I do certain things but how would I improve the FAQ?

IRON MAN · 03-14-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

My brain just exploded

Thats was not done with intent...

..The edit button wouldnt work so I was unable to edit my first post so I left it as is.

I'm asking for new ideas as I am always looking for ways to improve things. My program works extremely well but I am always striving for perfection. Thats why I have asked for suggestions from other board members. I have tried just about everything imaginable but someone might come up with a brilliant idea that can be added to my program to benefit others. Nothing would please me more than to see this.

**Dale Mabry** · 03-14-2006, 08:05 PM

Like a program template, sort of like P/RR/S has. Put it in it's own thread and lock it. That way the thread only contains your template and maybe a sample.

**CowPimp** · 03-14-2006, 08:35 PM

Yeah, I don't want to have to read through your template again; post that up, just the basics. Then I'll tell you what I think.

TJ Cline · 03-14-2006, 08:38 PM

First thing I learned as a kid was that their is no perfect workout....I made a million mistakes but knew after only 2 years of training at 14 that "xxxxxxx program can not be improved" was total Bull shit.

**Dale Mabry** · 03-14-2006, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

that "xxxxxxx program can not be improved" was total Bull shit.

Do you have a template for xxxxxxx?

shiznit2169 · 03-14-2006, 08:46 PM

I don't find anything wrong with the way IRON MAN promotes his training routines. There are different threads containing specific information about the background and solid strategies and advice to go about doing that. Sure it takes a lot of time to read through but it's worth it in my opinion. We all read everyday don't we?

I also agree with posting a template. If you add a thread with a simple template to go with your other threads, it would be a big improvement.

TJ Cline · 03-14-2006, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Do you have a template for xxxxxxx?

Yes, here it is.

03-11-2006, 01:10 PM	#1
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03-13-2006, 08:42 PM	#4
IRON MAN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 217	The Truth! The truth of the matter is I know deep down the IRON MAN program can not be improved. My real concerns are getting other trainers to Overcome being Indecisive. Chronic Indecision creates stress and confusion. You are, in fact divided against yourself. In bodybuilding, the indecisional trainer is a disaster! This conflict leads to tension, which in turn inhibits positive decision making. Its the most vicious of cycles. The bodybuilder neither gains from success nor from set back. Afraid to err, he or she never learns from mistakes. His paralysis can sink himself and others around him. Some resort to pseudo-decisions rushed and arbitrary stances that lack commitment or follow-through. But they arent real decisions unless they are free, unconditional, total and personal..My statements in the first post where to encourgace this type of behaviour so everyone would feel a part in making their own decisions. My wish for others is to encourage action relatively fast..and engender no regrets, rage or emptiness afterwards. Another problem I am seeing is the notion you can build the body of your dreams without paying a price. But every true decision exacts a price: Taking steroids, diet restrictions etc. So the dreaming bodybuilder remains inert, refusing to choose, like a child in a candy store. To overcome indeciseveness, you must first combat self hatred by ridding yourself of self-glorification. You must realize you have human limitations-and that one of those is making an occasional poor choice. At the same time, it's important to take stock of real assets such as the talents GODS has bestowed upon you. Editors Note: To become a decision maker about what routine and diet you should be following you must accept what I refer to as (THE BIG FACT); In many instances one decision is actually no better than the other. Unless your a bodybuilder deciding on which routine/diet to follow, it probably doesn't matter what you choose much of the time. This is particulary true in relationships. When paralzed by fear the best course is to meet the fear head on. After you've failed a few times, you will be desensitized to all the HOOP LA- and finally be free to choose a training program that really works. If anyone can show me a more productive routine than the IRON MAN "HIT" I will convert over. Thats a promise!! Last edited by IRON MAN : 03-13-2006 at 09:07 PM.
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Adamjs Adamjs Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 260	No entry found for INDECISIONAL. Did you mean IN DECISIONAL? Suggestions: IN DECISIONAL IN-DECISIONAL INDECISION AL INDECISION-AL INCISIONAL INDECISION INDECISION'S INTERCESSIONAL INDUCTIONAL INTENSIONAL No entry was found in the dictionary. Would you like to search the Web for INDECISIONAL?
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P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,376	lay out the basic template with out all the riff raff in that thread in your forum. there is to much stuff to read in there. Just lay out the template.
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03-12-2006, 03:30 PM	#2
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	I'll post an idea which I'll be the guinea pig and try. We need you to be there more often as it seems you have been on vacation 3 off and 1 on lately

03-14-2006, 07:41 PM	#17
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,376	post the template! I am not going to read through all the bull shit about why you made it up etc.....Just post the basic template.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

03-14-2006, 07:50 PM	#19
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shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,059 Photos: 3	I don't find anything wrong with the way IRON MAN promotes his training routines. There are different threads containing specific information about the background and solid strategies and advice to go about doing that. Sure it takes a lot of time to read through but it's worth it in my opinion. We all read everyday don't we? I also agree with posting a template. If you add a thread with a simple template to go with your other threads, it would be a big improvement.
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