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Old 03-20-2006, 11:14 AM   #1
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Strength training help please

I've been getting conflicting answers at the gym from different people. I want to gain strength. Is it best that I do a few warmup sets and then try to do my max for about 6-8 reps, 3 sets, then move on to a different exercise? But, could I start light, do 12 reps, work my way up to my max, do 3 sets of 6-8, then work down, lowering the weight and trying to do as many reps as possible, or would this only improve endurance and possilby burn me out?

Also, are there any muscles that require more reps and sets than others to gain strength?

Thanks for any help!
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Old 03-20-2006, 06:04 PM   #2
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1-5reps for strength
6-12 for hypertrophy
12+ for endurance

of course there are different kinds of strengthl. being able to squat 12 reps with 400lbs is different from squatting 500lbs for a single, double, or triple and although both are impressive feats of strength, the former is not a guarantee of the latter and vice versa. what specifically do you need the strength for? if you answer us this question we can help you out.



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Old 03-20-2006, 06:07 PM   #3
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Old 03-20-2006, 06:10 PM   #4
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I've been getting conflicting answers at the gym from different people. I want to gain strength. Is it best that I do a few warmup sets and then try to do my max for about 6-8 reps, 3 sets, then move on to a different exercise? But, could I start light, do 12 reps, work my way up to my max, do 3 sets of 6-8, then work down, lowering the weight and trying to do as many reps as possible, or would this only improve endurance and possilby burn me out?

Also, are there any muscles that require more reps and sets than others to gain strength?

Thanks for any help!
How long you been working out?

If not long, just stay in the 6-10 rep range after adequate warm up sets (that don't burn you out) and you'll get stronger.

If you have been working out for a while and are specifically looking to start increasing your 1 rep max then there is more to the story. Go do some searching for 1 rep max training.



What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:26 PM   #5
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Sorry to sound dumb, but what is hypertrophy?
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:06 AM   #6
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Sorry to sound dumb, but what is hypertrophy?
It's a little statue they award to hyper people?



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Hypertophy is muscle growth.

6-12 reps for hypertrophy basically means that is the ideal rep range for building muscle mass







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yes master.....what ever you say master.
lol shut up, it sounded fine when typing it i was



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lol shut up, it sounded fine when typing it i was

do you workout anymore?



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do you workout anymore?
wtf? of course i workout, i've even been dieting a bit as of late, down to bout 210lbs in the morning.

i'm actually thinking of starting a journal...again.



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wtf? of course i workout, i've even been dieting a bit as of late, down to bout 210lbs in the morning.

i'm actually thinking of starting a journal...again.

do it. you should get into a push/pull meet....how is your ankle?

dax is getting pretty stronger. Fucker benched 340 last week for a single.



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do it. you should get into a push/pull meet....how is your ankle?

dax is getting pretty stronger. Fucker benched 340 last week for a single.
i very well might do it, believe it or not your smart ass remarks about me being a pussy and all help me a lot.

ankle is doing fine i think, just a little bit of pain when dorsi flexing but nothing crazy. ROM is getting better, i do calf raises and shit for flexibility

dax is a sick fuck. thats fuckin strong, is he still ~180? cause thats impressive as hell.

bout to go squat...

i'll talk to ya bro, we still gotta chill before you leave. my weekends have been packed solid but i should have some free time in a week or two.



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i very well might do it, believe it or not your smart ass remarks about me being a pussy and all help me a lot.

ankle is doing fine i think, just a little bit of pain when dorsi flexing but nothing crazy. ROM is getting better, i do calf raises and shit for flexibility

dax is a sick fuck. thats fuckin strong, is he still ~180? cause thats impressive as hell.

bout to go squat...

i'll talk to ya bro, we still gotta chill before you leave. my weekends have been packed solid but i should have some free time in a week or two.
yea man let me know.


Dax is about 200-205.....Fucker bulked up big this winter to like 210!!! I am the light weight now!! haha.



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