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Old 04-04-2006, 04:08 PM   #1
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suggestion

Since everbody is always asking if there routine is good or not
Why dont the experts on this site just post the best (scientific) split/fbw routine for strength and/or size (instead of reading peoples workouts everyday, and rating it)
go ahead pro's, post the perfect routines (please include exercises, and amount of sets, reps) it would help alot of people including myself
(this might have been done already, but i cant find a post like this)
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:13 PM   #2
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there is no such thing as a perfect routine.

all this does is enable people. i don't know that spoon feeding is a specialty of any IM 'pros'.

just my .02.



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Old 04-04-2006, 04:32 PM   #3
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routine

when i said perfect, i really meant as best as it can be
well i happen to be a pro, and i suggest this, for lots of size and some strength
Day 1- Chest, Triceps
Day 2- Back, Biceps
Day 3- OFF
Day 4- Legs, Shoulders, Abs
Day 5-OFF
Back to day 1

CHEST
FLAT BENCH PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
DB FLYES OR INCLINE BENCH PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
DIPS- 3 SETS
TRICEPS
CLOSE GRIP BENCH PRESS- 2 SETS 6-10 REPS
TRICEPS EXTENSION- 2 SETS 6-10 REPS
BACK
DEADLIFTS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
BENT OVER ROWS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
CHINUPS OR PULLUPS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
BICEPS
BARBELL CURLS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
HAMMER, CONCENTRATION, OR EZ CURLS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
LEGS
SQUATS- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
STIFF LEG DEADLIFTS- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
CALF RAISES- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
SHOULDERS
MILITARY PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
CLOSE GRIP UPRIGHT ROWS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
ABS
WEIGHTED CRUNCHES- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
WEIGHTED SITUPS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:35 PM   #4
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self-proclaimed pro? bodypart training?

that seems a bit cookie cutter IMO.

edit: sorry my social skills suck and i'm testy today. welcome to IM .



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self-proclaimed pro? bodypart training?

that seems a bit cookie cutter IMO.

edit: sorry my social skills suck and i'm testy today. welcome to IM .
It's not really body part training though... it is push/pull/legs - well except for shoulders being on leg day
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Routine

2 parts of the shoulder are considered pull (lateral, and posterior)
1 part of the shoulder is push(anterior)
so I dont know why shoulder is considered push, i was jokin about bein a pro lol, but what would you rate that routine(A,B,C,D,E,F)
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routine

Here is a full body workout i would reccomend to people looking to gain lots of size and some strength (if you want more strength and less size lower the reps to about 3-5 reps)

Squats- 2 sets 6-10 reps
SLD's- 2 sets 6-10 reps
Flat Bench Press- 2 sets 6-10 reps
Dips- 2 sets 6-10 reps
Bent-over rows- 2 set 6-10 reps
Upright Rows- 2 set 6-10 reps
weighted situps- 2 sets 6-10 reps
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:25 PM   #8
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read the training101 stickies.

also, there was a thread awhile ago started by Foremanrules called "retard training" which had basic training routines that cowpimp and i had wrote out.


also, writing out complete training programs...sets, reps, rest intervals, periodization is something that I do for my clients. I know Dale and Cowpimp do the same. I know I probably sound like an asshole saying that but, that is how we make a living and it wouldn't be fair to those people who are paying good money for us to write their programs if we just wrote out a program for you and everyone else for free.

We don't get paid to be here. We do it because we love it. We are not trying to train you. We are trying to teach you to train yourself. If we help you learn how to write your own program then you wont ever need to have someone teach you how to do it again and you will always know what to do when your training goes stale. Make sense?



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I will answer any question on this site, it just so happens that my answer to the question, "Will you write me out a routine?" will always be no.



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I will answer any question on this site, it just so happens that my answer to the question, "Will you write me out a routine?" will always be no.
Will you write me out a routine?
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:56 PM   #11
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Will you write me out a routine?
Day 1- Chest, Triceps
Day 2- Back, Biceps
Day 3- OFF
Day 4- Legs, Shoulders, Abs
Day 5-OFF
Back to day 1

CHEST
FLAT BENCH PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
DB FLYES OR INCLINE BENCH PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
DIPS- 3 SETS
TRICEPS
CLOSE GRIP BENCH PRESS- 2 SETS 6-10 REPS
TRICEPS EXTENSION- 2 SETS 6-10 REPS
BACK
DEADLIFTS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
BENT OVER ROWS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
CHINUPS OR PULLUPS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
BICEPS
BARBELL CURLS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
HAMMER, CONCENTRATION, OR EZ CURLS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
LEGS
SQUATS- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
STIFF LEG DEADLIFTS- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
CALF RAISES- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
SHOULDERS
MILITARY PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
CLOSE GRIP UPRIGHT ROWS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
ABS
WEIGHTED CRUNCHES- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
WEIGHTED SITUPS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
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Day 1- Chest, Triceps
Day 2- Back, Biceps
Day 3- OFF
Day 4- Legs, Shoulders, Abs
Day 5-OFF
Back to day 1

CHEST
FLAT BENCH PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
DB FLYES OR INCLINE BENCH PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
DIPS- 3 SETS
TRICEPS
CLOSE GRIP BENCH PRESS- 2 SETS 6-10 REPS
TRICEPS EXTENSION- 2 SETS 6-10 REPS
BACK
DEADLIFTS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
BENT OVER ROWS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
CHINUPS OR PULLUPS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
BICEPS
BARBELL CURLS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
HAMMER, CONCENTRATION, OR EZ CURLS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
LEGS
SQUATS- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
STIFF LEG DEADLIFTS- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
CALF RAISES- 4 SETS 6-10 REPS
SHOULDERS
MILITARY PRESS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
CLOSE GRIP UPRIGHT ROWS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
ABS
WEIGHTED CRUNCHES- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS
WEIGHTED SITUPS- 3 SETS 6-10 REPS

wow, gee thanks myk .. i am expecting to gain 50 pounds and triple my numbers in 3 months!!

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Wow...Mike456...

You are a lucky man. I posted something similar to this routine ie. "body-part" training a while back...and I got torched by P-Funk! Consider yourself lucky and warned

On a side note...even though P-funk comes across as an ASS, he actually is here to help. And... unlike a lot of people on here, he knows what he's talking about! Gotta respect that (Okay, enough ass-kissing from me, LOL )
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On a side note...even though P-funk comes across as an ASS, he actually is here to help. And... unlike a lot of people on here, he knows what he's talking about! Gotta respect that (Okay, enough ass-kissing from me, LOL )
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read the training101 stickies.

also, there was a thread awhile ago started by Foremanrules called "retard training" which had basic training routines that cowpimp and i had wrote out.


also, writing out complete training programs...sets, reps, rest intervals, periodization is something that I do for my clients. I know Dale and Cowpimp do the same. I know I probably sound like an asshole saying that but, that is how we make a living and it wouldn't be fair to those people who are paying good money for us to write their programs if we just wrote out a program for you and everyone else for free.

We don't get paid to be here. We do it because we love it. We are not trying to train you. We are trying to teach you to train yourself. If we help you learn how to write your own program then you wont ever need to have someone teach you how to do it again and you will always know what to do when your training goes stale. Make sense?
you're nicer than i am.



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not the same routine works perfect for everyone. Its like not everyone gets a good chest just by bench pressing. Everyone is different.
Just try and fit yourself as best as you can .



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I understand you p-funk, anyways what would you rate that routine(give it a grade), if that is fair, thnx
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I understand you p-funk, anyways what would you rate that routine(give it a grade), if that is fair, thnx
rating it would be very harsh (probably an F).

I will say that the loading parameters are to vague. You need to account for that better.

I am not a fan of a body part split for various reasons which I have posted numerous times and which I go over the training 101 stickie.

it lacks balance between anterior and posterior movement patterns.



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i can't believe you rated it an F, wow i thought it was good, any other opinions?
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i can't believe you rated it an F, wow i thought it was good, any other opinions?
maybe a D. The fact that you even gave it a crack at putting down a loading scheme is better then most do.



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what is a loading scheme
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what is a loading scheme

the way in which you set up your sets and reps....aka loading parameters.



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