The "V" shape

zebianal · 04-05-2006, 11:07 AM

I don't know much about this area this is why i'm going to ask some more experienced guys about this.

Is there any certain exercises that would get you this shape or does it just appear overtime after Deadlifts, benchpressing etc... . Do you think most of it is genetic?

What are your views on this.

bushroot · 04-05-2006, 11:11 AM

I think most of it is genetic. Personally, I can't get below a 34" waist because of where my hips are placed. Consequently, I always look "blocky" no matter how low I get my bf%.

mrmark · 04-05-2006, 11:14 AM

I think it'll come with a good frame with a reasonable amount of mass on but with little body fat. A wide back and thick thighs will help create the illusion of the V.

fufu · 04-05-2006, 11:45 AM

diet and total body training.

Brutus_G · 04-05-2006, 12:40 PM

I think legs quads, hams, and shoulders determine how your body looks with chest a close second.Lats do help but not a huge amount.Spinal erectors well you cant really see them. Arms basically don't do much in my opinion but that's no reason to neglect them. Lets face it diamond calfs are sexy but don't do much for the V.
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...dbaldwin13.jpg
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...illiamson2.jpg
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...frankzane5.jpg
very overdone but it still shows a point http://www.fitbygeno.com/images/Body..._Chart-8in.jpg

kentmc · 04-05-2006, 01:16 PM

skullcrushers will really help

Seanp156 · 04-05-2006, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushroot

I think most of it is genetic. Personally, I can't get below a 34" waist because of where my hips are placed. Consequently, I always look "blocky" no matter how low I get my bf%.

I kinda have the same thing, my hips are naturally moderately wide in comparison to my overall body developement, though I'm sure I can get down to a 31-32 if I really want to... I think I was at 33 or so when I started my cut... Not sure now. As an ecto, is seems the body wants to develope in sort of a "column" if that makes sense.

The best thing you can do for the "V-Shape" is develope your shoulders and lats, but of course don't neglect other body "parts" as well.

**CowPimp** · 04-05-2006, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushroot

I think most of it is genetic. Personally, I can't get below a 34" waist because of where my hips are placed. Consequently, I always look "blocky" no matter how low I get my bf%.

Me too. I think about 33-34 is the lowest my waist could get. I have been around 8% body fat before, and my waist was no smaller than that. I might be able to hit 32-33 if I was competition level body fat, but I never would do that.

MyK · 04-06-2006, 10:05 AM

the shape is determined largely by genetics, I used to have a v-shape in high school!

MJH · 04-06-2006, 07:22 PM

The v-shape is largely determined by the your delts and lats, IMO. And not having overdeveloped traps. My v-taper has always been very good, and I've always been careful about not overdoing direct trap work, etc.

Seanp156 · 04-06-2006, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.J.H.

The v-shape is largely determined by the your delts and lats, IMO. And not having overdeveloped traps. My v-taper has always been very good, and I've always been careful about not overdoing direct trap work, etc.

Heh, I used to do shrugs a ton, but my traps seem to grow easily from deads and farmer's walks etc.

**CowPimp** · 04-06-2006, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.J.H.

The v-shape is largely determined by the your delts and lats, IMO. And not having overdeveloped traps. My v-taper has always been very good, and I've always been careful about not overdoing direct trap work, etc.

Yeah, that helps. Some people are always going to have a better taper than others due to their bone structure though.

Nate K · 04-06-2006, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.J.H.

The v-shape is largely determined by the your delts and lats, IMO. And not having overdeveloped traps. My v-taper has always been very good, and I've always been careful about not overdoing direct trap work, etc.

Having the characteristics of v-shape with nice traps is more aesthetically appealing than not having traps.

Brutus_G · 04-07-2006, 01:19 AM

I think we all can agree big delts help. Here is a guy with big traps and a little waist

taiyed7210 · 04-07-2006, 01:40 AM

I know this is a stupid question but in your opinion is it possible for me to look like that guy without taking steroids? Right now i am 5'8" and weigh 164!

Caesar · 04-07-2006, 02:21 AM

it's "possible". Unusually large traps are the first sign that someone is using steroids i think. That guy's traps are huge, but you could probably achieve similar size with very strict dieting and dedication. It would take quite awhile though.

taiyed7210 · 04-07-2006, 04:32 AM

Steroids aren't fair(coming from a puny bastard

). I'm no expert or anything so i dont debate whether or not they are good/bad. I just wonder what the point is.....getting large muscles would be cool but why take any "possible" unnessesary risk. Oh well i'll try to see where proper diet and consistancy will bring me !

**CowPimp** · 04-07-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taiyed7210

I know this is a stupid question but in your opinion is it possible for me to look like that guy without taking steroids? Right now i am 5'8" and weigh 164!

I'm going to say possible, but not likely. It would also take an incredible amount of dedication, and many years.

MJH · 04-07-2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Having the characteristics of v-shape with nice traps is more aesthetically appealing than not having traps.

I agree with this.

Now when it comes to underdevloped traps, IMO, that flat out just doesn't look right. But overdeveloped traps take away from the v-taper and almost give a no-neck football player look, instead of a wider, broader, bodybuilder look. Just my $.02.

Brutus_G · 04-07-2006, 11:38 PM

the guy i posted a pick of weighed in at 179 lol man...i guess you can look so much bigger with the right muscle groups.

Seanp156 · 04-08-2006, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus_G

the guy i posted a pick of weighed in at 179 lol man...i guess you can look so much bigger with the right muscle groups.

179? How tall is he? Like 5'4" ?

socc3r_Freak · 04-08-2006, 02:23 AM

I've never heard of the v-shape. I've heard of the x-shape or frame. Where you have big legs and a small waist and then big chest and lats. But what is the v-shape? Is it just the upper body or the lower and upper body?

Brutus_G · 04-08-2006, 05:05 AM

The v is just the upper bit of the X. I don't know his height but the article i got the pic from said 179 contest day.

04-05-2006, 11:07 AM	#1
zebianal Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 18	The "V" shape I don't know much about this area this is why i'm going to ask some more experienced guys about this. Is there any certain exercises that would get you this shape or does it just appear overtime after Deadlifts, benchpressing etc... . Do you think most of it is genetic? What are your views on this.

04-05-2006, 11:14 AM	#3
mrmark Londoner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 999 Photos: 1	I think it'll come with a good frame with a reasonable amount of mass on but with little body fat. A wide back and thick thighs will help create the illusion of the V. I love it when a plan comes together.

04-05-2006, 11:45 AM	#4
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	diet and total body training. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

04-05-2006, 12:40 PM	#5
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,122 Photos: 24	I think legs quads, hams, and shoulders determine how your body looks with chest a close second.Lats do help but not a huge amount.Spinal erectors well you cant really see them. Arms basically don't do much in my opinion but that's no reason to neglect them. Lets face it diamond calfs are sexy but don't do much for the V. http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...dbaldwin13.jpg http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...illiamson2.jpg http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/b...frankzane5.jpg very overdone but it still shows a point http://www.fitbygeno.com/images/Body..._Chart-8in.jpg "My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

04-06-2006, 07:22 PM	#10
MJH Cutting Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 190 Photos: 2	The v-shape is largely determined by the your delts and lats, IMO. And not having overdeveloped traps. My v-taper has always been very good, and I've always been careful about not overdoing direct trap work, etc. "You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you."

04-05-2006, 11:11 AM	#2
bushroot Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Currently in hell Posts: 39	I think most of it is genetic. Personally, I can't get below a 34" waist because of where my hips are placed. Consequently, I always look "blocky" no matter how low I get my bf%.

04-05-2006, 01:16 PM	#6
kentmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 81	skullcrushers will really help

04-06-2006, 10:05 AM	#9
MyK Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: consumerville! Posts: 10,201 Photos: 1	the shape is determined largely by genetics, I used to have a v-shape in high school!

04-07-2006, 01:40 AM	#15
taiyed7210 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 37	I know this is a stupid question but in your opinion is it possible for me to look like that guy without taking steroids? Right now i am 5'8" and weigh 164!

04-07-2006, 02:21 AM	#16
Caesar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 62	it's "possible". Unusually large traps are the first sign that someone is using steroids i think. That guy's traps are huge, but you could probably achieve similar size with very strict dieting and dedication. It would take quite awhile though.

04-07-2006, 04:32 AM	#17
taiyed7210 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 37	Steroids aren't fair(coming from a puny bastard ). I'm no expert or anything so i dont debate whether or not they are good/bad. I just wonder what the point is.....getting large muscles would be cool but why take any "possible" unnessesary risk. Oh well i'll try to see where proper diet and consistancy will bring me !

04-07-2006, 11:38 PM	#20
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,122 Photos: 24	the guy i posted a pick of weighed in at 179 lol man...i guess you can look so much bigger with the right muscle groups. "My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

04-08-2006, 02:23 AM	#22
socc3r_Freak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 30	I've never heard of the v-shape. I've heard of the x-shape or frame. Where you have big legs and a small waist and then big chest and lats. But what is the v-shape? Is it just the upper body or the lower and upper body?

04-08-2006, 05:05 AM	#23
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,122 Photos: 24	The v is just the upper bit of the X. I don't know his height but the article i got the pic from said 179 contest day. "My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

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