hack squat vs dealift

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-06-2006, 02:30 PM

which would u rather do or which is a better workout the hack squat or the deadlift. They're not really different but which would u choose in ur workout.

kenwood · 04-06-2006, 02:31 PM

deads

TJ Cline · 04-06-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

which would u rather do or which is a better workout the hack squat or the deadlift. They're not really different but which would u choose in ur workout.

Seanp156 · 04-06-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

which would u rather do or which is a better workout the hack squat or the deadlift. They're not really different but which would u choose in ur workout.

They're fairly different... Anyway, I'd prefer deadlifts... I never do hack squats, they put way too much pressure on my knees to get comfortable with.

The13ig13adWolf · 04-06-2006, 02:36 PM

er, not very different

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-06-2006, 05:09 PM

the only difference between hacks and deads would be that u just put the bar behind or legs but its the same form as a dead. hacks work the quads so much more.

TJ Cline · 04-06-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

the only difference between hacks and deads would be that u just put the bar behind or legs but its the same form as a dead. hacks work the quads so much more.

exactly, just like bench press is the same thing as a dumbel curl

MyK · 04-06-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

the only difference between hacks and deads would be that u just put the bar behind or legs but its the same form as a dead. hacks work the quads so much more.

Seanp156 · 04-06-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

exactly, just like bench press is the same thing as a dumbel curl

The movement might look similar if you're using a BB (except how you mentioned a hack squat is behind you), but it's hardly the same thing. In a deadlift, you're primarily pulling (lower back and hamstrings mostly) in a hack squat, you're pushing (mostly with quads).

Hlanderr · 04-06-2006, 06:10 PM

He's right..... quads aren't even the primary muscle used in a deadlift

Deadlifts provide a much better workout... they hit the entire back, lats, hamstrings, glutes, and quads
Hack squats are on a track placing a lot of stress on your knees, and work mainly the quads and hit a bit of the hamstrings

most people dont even do hack squats... stick with the deadlifts

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-06-2006, 06:31 PM

ok u guys are right i guess. hacks do a much better job in working the quads but i guess i feel a lil stress on my knees. the conventional deadlift is the only dl that works the hams and quads and almost the entire back. The lats arent worked as much as the traps and lower back.

And i have a whole new question. Wat are ur opinions on explosive exercises like cleans and snatches. Are they better or the same , or worst in building strength.

MyK · 04-06-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

ok u guys are right i guess. hacks do a much better job in working the quads but i guess i feel a lil stress on my knees. the conventional deadlift is the only dl that works the hams and quads and almost the entire back. The lats arent worked as much as the traps and lower back.

And i have a whole new question. Wat are ur opinions on explosive exercises like cleans and snatches. Are they better or the same , or worst in building strength.

It just doesn't stop around here!

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-06-2006, 06:49 PM

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It just doesn't stop around here!

if i make a whole new post it would be kinda gay cuz it would be the second post i made today and yesterday. lol so anyways wat are ur opinions.

MyK · 04-06-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

if i make a whole new post it would be kinda gay cuz it would be the second post i made today and yesterday. lol so anyways wat are ur opinions.

I dunno!

hey, what do you prefer, ankle twists or anal lunges???

Seanp156 · 04-06-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

if i make a whole new post it would be kinda gay cuz it would be the second post i made today and yesterday. lol so anyways wat are ur opinions.

Again, they're pretty different... They're great if you know how to do them, but personally I wouldn't try snatches unless I had someone to coach me on them (then again, I've had trouble with my shoulders at times), form is extermely important on olympic lifts. Cleans you could probably do alright teaching yourself as long as you start REAL light (like... the bar).

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-06-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanp156

Again, they're pretty different... They're great if you know how to do them, but personally I wouldn't try snatches unless I had someone to coach me on them (then again, I've had trouble with my shoulders at times), form is extermely important on olympic lifts. Cleans you could probably do alright teaching yourself as long as you start REAL light (like... the bar).

I clean over 110 lbs and im good at them.

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-06-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MyK

I dunno!

hey, what do you prefer, ankle twists or anal lunges???

wtf is ur problem?? im asking u nicely on ur opinion and ur posting bullcrap

MyK · 04-06-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

wtf is ur problem?? im asking u nicely on ur opinion and ur posting bullcrap

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-06-2006, 08:53 PM

MyK · 04-06-2006, 08:57 PM

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haha

LoadedBats · 04-07-2006, 08:09 AM

Out of curiousity, have any of you tried the original hack squat? Not the machine, i mean the barbell behind your back style squat? It is f**king hard. I agree it's a bit different from a deadlift, but i've tried them before and was just wondering if anyone ever uses them.

Seanp156 · 04-07-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LoadedBats

Out of curiousity, have any of you tried the original hack squat? Not the machine, i mean the barbell behind your back style squat? It is f**king hard. I agree it's a bit different from a deadlift, but i've tried them before and was just wondering if anyone ever uses them.

Yes, I've tried them with the BB back around when I first started because my gym didn't have the hack squat machine... I don't use either anymore though, it's just not comfortable on my knees.

**CowPimp** · 04-07-2006, 10:07 AM

Deadlifts without question. I'm not a big fan of hack squats. I certainly feel my quads big time when I do them, but they don't feel natural. Even before I learned all the advantages to performing freeweight exercises I have always preferred them. I don't like restricted ranges of motion.

**CowPimp** · 04-07-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Seanp156

Yes, I've tried them with the BB back around when I first started because my gym didn't have the hack squat machine... I don't use either anymore though, it's just not comfortable on my knees.

They're a little funky, but I've done them too. It's a good alternative when you're lacking equipment.

Seanp156 · 04-07-2006, 11:06 AM

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They're a little funky, but I've done them too. It's a good alternative when you're lacking equipment.

I prefer front squats to either BB hack, or machine hack squats

. Feels a lot more natural after getting used to the placement on the shoulders.

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-07-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MyK

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u really need help

**CowPimp** · 04-07-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanp156

I prefer front squats to either BB hack, or machine hack squats

. Feels a lot more natural after getting used to the placement on the shoulders.

Yeah, I like them better too. It's cool to throw them in on occasion though. I had one of my clients do them the other day, and he seemed to like the movement.

The13ig13adWolf · 04-08-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LoadedBats

Out of curiousity, have any of you tried the original hack squat? Not the machine, i mean the barbell behind your back style squat? It is f**king hard. I agree it's a bit different from a deadlift, but i've tried them before and was just wondering if anyone ever uses them.

have never been able to get my form right on free weight hack squats. i agree, they're hard.

The13ig13adWolf · 04-08-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Wat are ur opinions on explosive exercises like cleans and snatches. Are they better or the same , or worst in building strength.

not better or worse, totally different.

good for building strength and fun to implement into a program IMO.

MyK · 04-08-2006, 09:55 AM

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....

u really need help

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GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	the only difference between hacks and deads would be that u just put the bar behind or legs but its the same form as a dead. hacks work the quads so much more.

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Hlanderr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 774	He's right..... quads aren't even the primary muscle used in a deadlift Deadlifts provide a much better workout... they hit the entire back, lats, hamstrings, glutes, and quads Hack squats are on a track placing a lot of stress on your knees, and work mainly the quads and hit a bit of the hamstrings most people dont even do hack squats... stick with the deadlifts

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GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	ok u guys are right i guess. hacks do a much better job in working the quads but i guess i feel a lil stress on my knees. the conventional deadlift is the only dl that works the hams and quads and almost the entire back. The lats arent worked as much as the traps and lower back. And i have a whole new question. Wat are ur opinions on explosive exercises like cleans and snatches. Are they better or the same , or worst in building strength.

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GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	haha

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LoadedBats Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: PA Posts: 234 Photos: 3	Out of curiousity, have any of you tried the original hack squat? Not the machine, i mean the barbell behind your back style squat? It is f**king hard. I agree it's a bit different from a deadlift, but i've tried them before and was just wondering if anyone ever uses them.