Upright rows

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-10-2006, 07:13 PM

What r ur opinions on upright rows? R they better then many barbell exercises that work the lateral delts? (sorry ive bin posting so much about lateral shoulder exercises. i just need to find the best one with a barbell for my working plan.)

**P-funk** · 04-10-2006, 07:23 PM

probably one of the worst exercises for the shoulder.....

abduction, extension and external rotation all happening in one movement with a good amount of load. I am not a fan of this exercise. Especially for people with shoulder problems.

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-10-2006, 07:27 PM

ok so what lateral deltoid exercises (with a barbell) do u recommend i do besides upright rows since u dont like them? i really dont wanna use dumbells.

Rocco32 · 04-10-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

ok so what lateral deltoid exercises (with a barbell) do u recommend i do besides upright rows since u dont like them? i really dont wanna use dumbells.

Well if you don't want to do anything with DB's, then do Barbell side laterals

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-10-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

probably one of the worst exercises for the shoulder.....

abduction, extension and external rotation all happening in one movement with a good amount of load. I am not a fan of this exercise. Especially for people with shoulder problems.

Wait why r upright rows so bad? I used to do them a while ago and they were pretty good.

**P-funk** · 04-10-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Wait why r upright rows so bad? I used to do them a while ago and they were pretty good.

is this a trick question?

I said why they were bad and you quoted it.

if they don't bother you then do them.

mike456 · 04-10-2006, 08:26 PM

i think the only lateral shoulder exercise with a barbell is upright rows, I like doing them narrow grip but you should try doing them wide grip, its a good exercise IMO

**Mudge** · 04-10-2006, 09:54 PM

Kills my shoulders, I wont do them with more than 85 pounds if I do them at all - and sloooooowly at that. As long as I target the traps and not the shoulders I can do these very light (you'd have to get a feel for what I'm talking about here).

You may enjoy them now, but if and when you hurt your shoulders maybe you will finally get to feel it firsthand.

TJ Cline · 04-10-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

ok so what lateral deltoid exercises (with a barbell) do u recommend i do besides upright rows since u dont like them? i really dont wanna use dumbells.

Cable laterals are the best isolation movement for them....other than that do pressing movements.

**CowPimp** · 04-10-2006, 10:36 PM

I don't do any work for my lateral delts specifically. A healthy dose of overhead pressing seems to take care of that for me.

maxpro2 · 04-10-2006, 11:07 PM

Upright rows... nice way to hit your traps and biceps; shoulders on the other hand...

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-11-2006, 02:38 PM

Would it be possible and a better lateral delt exercise if i do front barbell raises with my arms crossed (like an X) if u know what i mean?

TJ Cline · 04-11-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Would it be possible and a better lateral delt exercise if i do front barbell raises with my arms crossed (like an X) if u know what i mean?

All Barbells and no Dumbells makes GoLdeN M 07 a dull boy.

**P-funk** · 04-11-2006, 02:53 PM

honestly, at 5'8" and 140lbs the last thing you need to worry about is "isolating" your medial deltoids. You need to just put size on your frame. Start doing more overhead pressing and work on compound movements.

Nate K · 04-11-2006, 03:08 PM

You can do upright rows.
Don't do reps with a weight you can't handle with good form for more than 10 reps. Just go slow and stay upright, don't start swinging everywhere.

GoLdeN M 07 · 04-11-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

All Barbells and no Dumbells makes GoLdeN M 07 a dull boy.

I finally got a barbell and bench a while ago for my birthday and i just wanna fucking use it dumbass. i dont wanna use my dumbells anymore.

yo and Pfunk i dont wanna 'isolate' my shoulders i dont like doing that. the reason i wanted to do upright rows was because it works the laterals and fronts.

TJ Cline · 04-11-2006, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

I finally got a barbell and bench a while ago for my birthday and i just wanna fucking use it dumbass. i dont wanna use my dumbells anymore.

yo and Pfunk i dont wanna 'isolate' my shoulders i dont like doing that. the reason i wanted to do upright rows was because it works the laterals and fronts.

At 5'8'' and only a tiny 140 it looks like you are the dumbass son...read the stickys in the training section and stop wasting our time with stupid questions.

**P-funk** · 04-11-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

yo and Pfunk i dont wanna 'isolate' my shoulders i dont like doing that. the reason i wanted to do upright rows was because it works the laterals and fronts.

what do you think working the lateral and front delts is? You are asking what isolates those areas.

read the stickes and learn so that you don't waste time. You can make a lot of progress quickly with a sound program.

AKIRA · 04-11-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

honestly, at 5'8" and 140lbs the last thing you need to worry about is "isolating" your medial deltoids. You need to just put size on your frame. Start doing more overhead pressing and work on compound movements.

Yeah, I dont understand some of this shit.
When I FIRST started working out, I was 6' 143lbs. All I did was eat and lift. It was horrible, but I just kept doing it.

I didnt have this forum back then and it is nice that theres so much info to be learned, but I think some kids are thinking about things too much. Keep it simple. Some of these heavy compound workouts are staples or should be staples in experienced lifters' workouts. Its all there for a reason.

04-10-2006, 07:13 PM	#1
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	Upright rows What r ur opinions on upright rows? R they better then many barbell exercises that work the lateral delts? (sorry ive bin posting so much about lateral shoulder exercises. i just need to find the best one with a barbell for my working plan.)

04-10-2006, 07:23 PM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,701	probably one of the worst exercises for the shoulder..... abduction, extension and external rotation all happening in one movement with a good amount of load. I am not a fan of this exercise. Especially for people with shoulder problems. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

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04-11-2006, 02:53 PM	#14
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,701	honestly, at 5'8" and 140lbs the last thing you need to worry about is "isolating" your medial deltoids. You need to just put size on your frame. Start doing more overhead pressing and work on compound movements. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

04-10-2006, 07:27 PM	#3
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	ok so what lateral deltoid exercises (with a barbell) do u recommend i do besides upright rows since u dont like them? i really dont wanna use dumbells.

04-10-2006, 08:26 PM	#7
mike456 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,294	i think the only lateral shoulder exercise with a barbell is upright rows, I like doing them narrow grip but you should try doing them wide grip, its a good exercise IMO

04-10-2006, 11:07 PM	#11
maxpro2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,122	Upright rows... nice way to hit your traps and biceps; shoulders on the other hand...

04-11-2006, 02:38 PM	#12
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	Would it be possible and a better lateral delt exercise if i do front barbell raises with my arms crossed (like an X) if u know what i mean?

04-11-2006, 03:08 PM	#15
Nate K Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,739 Photos: 3	You can do upright rows. Don't do reps with a weight you can't handle with good form for more than 10 reps. Just go slow and stay upright, don't start swinging everywhere.

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