Smith machine for CGBP

topolo · 05-03-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

I live in Philadelphia FYI.

Nobody cares

**gopro** · 05-03-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

She would kick your ass and take over all your clients. Bad idea brother.

As long as she gets physical, I'm all in

assassin · 05-04-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Although I really dislike smitch machines myself, I don't think using them sometimes would be a problem. I wouldn't do any type of movement exclusively on a smith machine, but it could be used to overload the prime movers in a specific exercise to a greater degree.

100% agree

AKIRA · 05-04-2006, 12:27 PM

I have used the smith machine for this exercise before. In fact, I did achieve nice results from it, but then I switched to free weight barbells. However, dont let that fool you cuz I switch up everything basically.

I think I am considering doing this particuliar workout again this week!

r0dxx · 05-04-2006, 09:43 PM

Even Darrem Charles uses the smith for cgbp, I worked out with him today

**gopro** · 05-04-2006, 10:48 PM

The Smith is a great machine if not used excessively...period.

Tough Old Man · 05-04-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

The Smith is a great machine if not used excessively...period.

Your a great guy.

**gopro** · 05-05-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Your a great guy.

Well, thank you, but why do you say that my friend?

The13ig13adWolf · 05-05-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Well, thank you, but why do you say that my friend?

he's trying to get in your pants...

The13ig13adWolf · 05-05-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Favre

I use the smith for 3 things, front squats, calf raises, and CG benchpress. People diss them all the time but there is something to be said about loading on a heavy ass weight while not having to worry about dropping it or finding a spotter. I train at home so it helps big time.

why do you do front squats on a smith?

the only thing to be said about being able to load more weight is, it's an ego trip. as far as dumping the weight...that's what safety bars are for. do you have a free weight squat rack at home or no?

assassin · 05-05-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

why do you do front squats on a smith?

the only thing to be said about being able to load more weight is, it's an ego trip. as far as dumping the weight...that's what safety bars are for. do you have a free weight squat rack at home or no?

yeah squats on the smith are bad , not good at all i stopped doing them they increase the potential of having an injury too also the increased weight u will use will be taking off by the machine itself so u won't benefit that much ,, but i like the idea of doing calf raises on the smith this is a gr8 idea we don't have a calf machine in the gym so i guess i'll be using this nice idea

**gopro** · 05-05-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

he's trying to get in your pants...

Damn, I was shooting for you...

Favre · 05-05-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

why do you do front squats on a smith?

the only thing to be said about being able to load more weight is, it's an ego trip. as far as dumping the weight...that's what safety bars are for. do you have a free weight squat rack at home or no?

I know everyone has their preferences but really, front squats aren't bad at all on the smith. Back squats I wouldn't do on a smith as they seem way too awkwurd but front ones I have no discomfort at all doing them. I've been doing them for years on the same smith machine. I always warm up before. I alternate between front squats, hack squats and leg presses.

It's not an ego trip for me as there is nobody else around to see what weight I'm putting on. I don't know how safety bars would work for me. I squat ATG would that matter? I like going to failure so even taking a step anywheres to get the bar back on some rack is not something I wanna deal with really. I just want to hook the bar and lay down on the ground for a few minutes.

The13ig13adWolf · 05-06-2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Favre

I know everyone has their preferences but really, front squats aren't bad at all on the smith. Back squats I wouldn't do on a smith as they seem way too awkwurd but front ones I have no discomfort at all doing them. I've been doing them for years on the same smith machine. I always warm up before. I alternate between front squats, hack squats and leg presses.

It's not an ego trip for me as there is nobody else around to see what weight I'm putting on. I don't know how safety bars would work for me. I squat ATG would that matter? I like going to failure so even taking a step anywheres to get the bar back on some rack is not something I wanna deal with really. I just want to hook the bar and lay down on the ground for a few minutes.

IMO anything on a smith is not good but that's me...especially squats (all variations). you're doing yourself a disservice by eliminating your stabilizers.

i don't see how squatting ATG makes a difference. whether you're doing them free or on a smith, that's simply correct form either way. may be more difficult on a rack if you have flexibility issues but that can be corrected. with regards to going to failure, i'm not a fan but i know many are. in that case, without a standard squat rack with safety bars, i can see the reasoning behind using the smith but i still wouldn't be caught dead on it. your call dude.

The13ig13adWolf · 05-06-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Damn, I was shooting for you...

tighten up your aim next time

**gopro** · 05-06-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

tighten up your aim next time

Oh, I think I am right on point now sweets

Tough Old Man · 05-06-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

see the reasoning behind using the smith but i still wouldn't be caught dead on it.

How about alive

Favre · 05-07-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

IMO anything on a smith is not good but that's me...especially squats (all variations). you're doing yourself a disservice by eliminating your stabilizers.

i don't see how squatting ATG makes a difference. whether you're doing them free or on a smith, that's simply correct form either way. may be more difficult on a rack if you have flexibility issues but that can be corrected. with regards to going to failure, i'm not a fan but i know many are. in that case, without a standard squat rack with safety bars, i can see the reasoning behind using the smith but i still wouldn't be caught dead on it. your call dude.

Upon seeing the pics you have put up I'm not going to argue with you anymore. I'm still gonna keep using the smith though. Just keep doing what you're doing and put more pics up.

**gopro** · 05-08-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Favre

Upon seeing the pics you have put up I'm not going to argue with you anymore. I'm still gonna keep using the smith though. Just keep doing what you're doing and put more pics up.

Yeah, she is tough to argue with...cause she is so damn HOT, LOL!

However, I still love using the smith for incline presses, close grips, behind the back shrugs, presses to neck, and military presses.

However, I would NEVER use the smith exclusively for these movements, or any others, but only as a variation every few workouts. (Although I tend to do close grips on a smith exclusively as I feel they are superior to free weight for this particular exercise).

Favre · 05-08-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Yeah, she is tough to argue with...cause she is so damn HOT, LOL!

On top of all that, she shoots guns!!!!!

I wonder if she'll sit down and watch football for 12 hours on Sundays come September.

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