Fast-walking vs. Running

MAC33 · 05-02-2006, 05:57 PM

Is it true that fast-walking burns more fat than running/jogging?
Thanks in advance for your replies

**CowPimp** · 05-02-2006, 11:01 PM

No. That's a load of horseshit. Most of the work you do when moving is to lift yourself vertically. You are actually leaping off the ground when you run, hence you do more work and generate more power, hence you burn more calories per unit of time.

assassin · 05-03-2006, 01:35 AM

running burns lots of calories but not most of them are fats walking burns less calories because most of them are fats so both burn the same amount of fats....but u wil benefit more from burning more calories cause it's not necassary to burn fat to lose fat if u burned more calories and made a bigger calorie deficit during the day this will make u lose fat better.......just like training before breakfast issue it will burn fats only .... and training after u eat will just burn what u ate ........ but that doesn't make sense if u don't make a calorie deficit during the whole day

AKIRA · 05-04-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by assassin

running burns lots of calories but not most of them are fats walking burns less calories because most of them are fats so both burn the same amount of fats....but u wil benefit more from burning more calories cause it's not necassary to burn fat to lose fat if u burned more calories and made a bigger calorie deficit during the day this will make u lose fat better.......just like training before breakfast issue it will burn fats only .... and training after u eat will just burn what u ate ........ but that doesn't make sense if u don't make a calorie deficit during the whole day

Holy shit. Talk about a bunch of myths written badly.

assassin · 05-04-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Holy shit. Talk about a bunch of myths written badly.

stfu pls what does make sense to u....

**CowPimp** · 05-04-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by assassin

running burns lots of calories but not most of them are fats walking burns less calories because most of them are fats so both burn the same amount of fats....but u wil benefit more from burning more calories cause it's not necassary to burn fat to lose fat if u burned more calories and made a bigger calorie deficit during the day this will make u lose fat better.......just like training before breakfast issue it will burn fats only .... and training after u eat will just burn what u ate ........ but that doesn't make sense if u don't make a calorie deficit during the whole day

Walking burns more fat percentage-wise, but not necessarily in terms of the absolute amount. You have it right in essence though; it's all abut a caloric deficit.

JerseyDevil · 05-05-2006, 09:35 PM

I totally agree that calories burned, whether walking or running, should have the same effect. But in my experience, I've started running when I was 17, hard core running strips off almost as much muscle as it does fat.

Walking on the other hand achieves the goal of fat loss, but spares more muscle tissue. This is purely anedoctal, but I have tested it many times over the years. My hack conclusion is that running, because of the intensity level, will burn calories long after the activity stops. Walking is more conservative and is a better match to a PL or BB program.

assassin · 05-05-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

I , hard core running strips off almost as much muscle as it does fat.

Walking on the other hand achieves the goal of fat loss, but spares more Walking is more conservative and is a better match to a PL or BB program.

believe me it's a matter of nutrition when i was cutting carbs running made me lose lots of muscles even just in one session u'll feal u lost weight ,,because u lose much water and cutting cardbs makes ur body start to stop carrying water ,, but if u r eating well u won't lose anything that easy,, i play soccer 2 x a week sometimes 2 hoours each and i run for 30 minutes .......all what happened to me is that my breath and heart beats are more stronger i have better strength and my legs began to take a good shape (ofcourse u'll had better indurance for doing squats and deads and all legs and whole body work)...it also tones ur muscles as well and makes u have a stronger core.........but u should eat enough carbs in running days and have a good fat intake otherwise u will lose muscles ....

JordanMang · 05-05-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by assassin

believe me it's a matter of nutrition when i was cutting carbs running made me lose lots of muscles even just in one session u'll feal u lost weight ,,because u lose much water and cutting cardbs makes ur body start to stop carrying water ,, but if u r eating well u won't lose anything that easy,, i play soccer 2 x a week sometimes 2 hoours each and i run for 30 minutes .......all what happened to me is that my breath and heart beats are more stronger i have better strength and my legs began to take a good shape (ofcourse u'll had better indurance for doing squats and deads and all legs and whole body work)...it also tones ur muscles as well and makes u have a stronger core.........but u should eat enough carbs in running days and have a good fat intake otherwise u will lose muscles ....

1. Please use good garmmar - it'd make your post so much easier to read and interpret.

2. You should do a little more research on the subject in my opinion.

3. Stop stating the obvious ( which is the only information you have correct in this post ).

4. Don't take this offensively; just as a few friendly tips.

assassin · 05-05-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

1. Please use good garmmar - it'd make your post so much easier to read and interpret. (ok sorry for any mistakes in typing or grammar)
2. You should do a little more research on the subject in my opinion.(i'll try to ,, that's just what i feel every body have a type of body with different adaption)
3. Stop stating the obvious ( which is the only information you have correct in this post ).(thnx

)

4. Don't take this offensively; just as a few friendly tips(nothing is offensive my friend u could even ignore it if u wish too i'm just saying my opinion sorry any way if i was really offensive).

**CowPimp** · 05-06-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

I totally agree that calories burned, whether walking or running, should have the same effect. But in my experience, I've started running when I was 17, hard core running strips off almost as much muscle as it does fat.

Walking on the other hand achieves the goal of fat loss, but spares more muscle tissue. This is purely anedoctal, but I have tested it many times over the years. My hack conclusion is that running, because of the intensity level, will burn calories long after the activity stops. Walking is more conservative and is a better match to a PL or BB program.

Define hardcore running...

JerseyDevil · 05-14-2006, 04:54 PM

Hardcore running for me was 30-35 miles per week. My best 12 week program to prepare for a half marathon race is below.

Mon: 7 miles, 7:00-7:15 minute per mile pace
Tue: 4 miles, 6:45-6:55 minute per mile pace
Wed: 7 miles, 7:00-7:15 minute per mile pace
Thu: 4 miles, 6:45-6:55 minute per mile pace
Fri: off
Sat: 10-12 mile run, 7:30-7:45 minute per mile pace
Sun: 3-7 mile run depending on energy level, usually slow 8:00 minute per mile pace

In the actual race I ran 13.1 miles averaging 6:40 per mile. As a pure runner these numbers suck, but for a casual runner who started out barely being able to run 2 miles under 20 minutes.... not bad.

And yes, I lost weight like mad. I ate anything I wanted, I drank beer almost everyday and ate pizza a couple times a week. After the long Saturday morning run, I would eat 4 big knockwursts and roasted potatoes with sour cream, and I was STILL losing weight every week. After running like this for a several months I looked like the walking dead. Heart and lungs in tip top shape and fit as a fiddle, but with almost NO muscle mass. I could 'feel' I was in an accelerated calorie burning state for a few hours after the activity stopped.

I think walking is much better for BB'ing purposes, because it is way less intense and achieves the purpose of burning calories... and is better for sparing muscle. It is all about calorie deficit for sure, but 'hardcore running' burns an amazing amount of calories.

**CowPimp** · 05-14-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Hardcore running for me was 30-35 miles per week. My best 12 week program to prepare for a half marathon race is below.

Mon: 7 miles, 7:00-7:15 minute per mile pace
Tue: 4 miles, 6:45-6:55 minute per mile pace
Wed: 7 miles, 7:00-7:15 minute per mile pace
Thu: 4 miles, 6:45-6:55 minute per mile pace
Fri: off
Sat: 10-12 mile run, 7:30-7:45 minute per mile pace
Sun: 3-7 mile run depending on energy level, usually slow 8:00 minute per mile pace

In the actual race I ran 13.1 miles averaging 6:40 per mile. As a pure runner these numbers suck, but for a casual runner who started out barely being able to run 2 miles under 20 minutes.... not bad.

And yes, I lost weight like mad. I ate anything I wanted, I drank beer almost everyday and ate pizza a couple times a week. After the long Saturday morning run, I would eat 4 big knockwursts and roasted potatoes with sour cream, and I was STILL losing weight every week. After running like this for a several months I looked like the walking dead. Heart and lungs in tip top shape and fit as a fiddle, but with almost NO muscle mass. I could 'feel' I was in an accelerated calorie burning state for a few hours after the activity stopped.

I think walking is much better for BB'ing purposes, because it is way less intense and achieves the purpose of burning calories... and is better for sparing muscle. It is all about calorie deficit for sure, but 'hardcore running' burns an amazing amount of calories.

Yeah, that's too much running for a bodybuilder in my opinion. I don't think I've ever steadily jogged more than about 15 miles in a week, and that's making sure I compensated with plenty of additional caloric intake. It didn't seem to phase my gains at all, but I was still pretty fresh returning to resistance training.

assassin · 05-15-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Yeah, that's too much running for a bodybuilder in my opinion. I don't think I've ever steadily jogged more than about 15 miles in a week, and that's making sure I compensated with plenty of additional caloric intake. It didn't seem to phase my gains at all, but I was still pretty fresh returning to resistance training.

so what do u think is the maximum period of time a bb should run..(jogging with some sprints in between)

**CowPimp** · 05-15-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by assassin

so what do u think is the maximum period of time a bb should run..(jogging with some sprints in between)

A few 30 minute sessions a week should be sufficient. When it comes to preparing for a contest though, things could be different. I don't have experience with that, and getting to those incredibly low body fat levels is probably quite a different story.

If you're doing HIIT cardio, then more like 20-25 minutes would be more appropriate. If you're doing sprints, then somewhere around 15 minutes, or sometimes even less, is appropriate.

assassin · 05-16-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

A few 30 minute sessions a week should be sufficient. When it comes to preparing for a contest though, things could be different. I don't have experience with that, and getting to those incredibly low body fat levels is probably quite a different story.

If you're doing HIIT cardio, then more like 20-25 minutes would be more appropriate. If you're doing sprints, then somewhere around 15 minutes, or sometimes even less, is appropriate.

i do cycling for 30 minutes sessions and i increase the intensity every several minutes increasing tension in the bike and speed , i try to make it like hiit ..also i jog with some sprints in between ...also for 1-2 times a week i play soccer with much running......could that get me in the (not increadibly) low body fat levels?? i mean under 10% or i'll have to increase intensity gradualy after a while???? i am around 20% now

**CowPimp** · 05-16-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by assassin

i do cycling for 30 minutes sessions and i increase the intensity every several minutes increasing tension in the bike and speed , i try to make it like hiit ..also i jog with some sprints in between ...also for 1-2 times a week i play soccer with much running......could that get me in the (not increadibly) low body fat levels?? i mean under 10% or i'll have to increase intensity gradualy after a while???? i am around 20% now

All of that is for naught if you don't have your diet under control. You can get to under 10% body fat without going nuts with cardio; I have done that with 2-3 cardio session each week and a strictly controlled caloric intake.

You have to consume fewer calories than you are utilizing, plain and simple. How you achieve this negative energy balance is up to you, but cardio helps and so does diet. Doing both is beneficial, but diet is almost always going to be your limiting factor.

assassin · 05-16-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

All of that is for naught if you don't have your diet under control. You can get to under 10% body fat without going nuts with cardio; I have done that with 2-3 cardio session each week and a strictly controlled caloric intake.

You have to consume fewer calories than you are utilizing, plain and simple. How you achieve this negative energy balance is up to you, but cardio helps and so does diet. Doing both is beneficial, but diet is almost always going to be your limiting factor.

i have a perfect diet too... i follow it to the word but u know i lose patience every while although i know things much go very slow

**CowPimp** · 05-16-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by assassin

i have a perfect diet too... i follow it to the word but u know i lose patience every while although i know things much go very slow

Good, then your results will come. Just monitor your weight loss and make sure that you are progressing at the desired rate. If you really want to get big and be lean, then it takes years and years of dedication.

assassin · 05-16-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Good, then your results will come. Just monitor your weight loss and make sure that you are progressing at the desired rate. If you really want to get big and be lean, then it takes years and years of dedication.

i know it doesn't take weeks or months ,,, other wise every body will be big and lean and it wouldn't be something to care about ...

dontsurfonmytur · 05-16-2006, 12:38 PM

when i cut i never did more than one time a week cardio session . HIIT for as long as i can, but never went more than 23 minutes. But i will not do cardio again until i train for the MMAs

assassin · 05-16-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

when i cut i never did more than one time a week cardio session . HIIT for as long as i can, but never went more than 23 minutes. But i will not do cardio again until i train for the MMAs

u must be an ecto

, i kow u could cut without even any cardio but cardio boosts the metabloism and prevent u from hanging on an edge.....are u an ecto ??

GoalGetter · 05-16-2006, 01:08 PM

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What Exercise Intensity Burns the Most Fat?
During low intensity exercise the majority of energy (kcals) comes from fat. As exercise intensity increases, the percent of energy derived from fat decreases. However, the absolute amount of energy derived from fat is actually increased! As exercise intensity increases, so does total energy expenditure (caloric expenditure). Even though a smaller percentage of the energy expenditure is coming from fat, more kcals of fat are burned because there is a greater absolute energy expenditure. Therefore, expressing energy derived from fat as a percentage of energy expenditure without considering the total energy expenditure is misleading.

Another consideration is the effect that exercise has on energy expenditure after exercise. Following a high intensity exercise bout, the rate of metabolism is elevated for a slightly longer period of time (when compared to a lower exercise bout), and more energy is expended as your body returns to homeostasis (resting conditions). With regular aerobic exercise, this post-exercise energy expenditure will positively contribute to weight loss goals.

Vella C. & Kravitz, L. (2002). Gender differences in fat metabolism. IDEA Health and Fitness Source, 20(10), 36-46.

assassin · 05-16-2006, 03:01 PM

ok u lose fat only if at the end of the day calories in < calories out that's why it's not the matter of u burn fat during the work out or after the work out or u may burn sugars and carbs and then ur body compensates by going to the fat storage...

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JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,181	Hardcore running for me was 30-35 miles per week. My best 12 week program to prepare for a half marathon race is below. Mon: 7 miles, 7:00-7:15 minute per mile pace Tue: 4 miles, 6:45-6:55 minute per mile pace Wed: 7 miles, 7:00-7:15 minute per mile pace Thu: 4 miles, 6:45-6:55 minute per mile pace Fri: off Sat: 10-12 mile run, 7:30-7:45 minute per mile pace Sun: 3-7 mile run depending on energy level, usually slow 8:00 minute per mile pace In the actual race I ran 13.1 miles averaging 6:40 per mile. As a pure runner these numbers suck, but for a casual runner who started out barely being able to run 2 miles under 20 minutes.... not bad. And yes, I lost weight like mad. I ate anything I wanted, I drank beer almost everyday and ate pizza a couple times a week. After the long Saturday morning run, I would eat 4 big knockwursts and roasted potatoes with sour cream, and I was STILL losing weight every week. After running like this for a several months I looked like the walking dead. Heart and lungs in tip top shape and fit as a fiddle, but with almost NO muscle mass. I could 'feel' I was in an accelerated calorie burning state for a few hours after the activity stopped. I think walking is much better for BB'ing purposes, because it is way less intense and achieves the purpose of burning calories... and is better for sparing muscle. It is all about calorie deficit for sure, but 'hardcore running' burns an amazing amount of calories. Last edited by JerseyDevil : 05-14-2006 at 05:30 PM.

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05-03-2006, 01:35 AM	#3
assassin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: egypt/cairo Posts: 2,150	running burns lots of calories but not most of them are fats walking burns less calories because most of them are fats so both burn the same amount of fats....but u wil benefit more from burning more calories cause it's not necassary to burn fat to lose fat if u burned more calories and made a bigger calorie deficit during the day this will make u lose fat better.......just like training before breakfast issue it will burn fats only .... and training after u eat will just burn what u ate ........ but that doesn't make sense if u don't make a calorie deficit during the whole day

05-05-2006, 09:35 PM	#7
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,181	I totally agree that calories burned, whether walking or running, should have the same effect. But in my experience, I've started running when I was 17, hard core running strips off almost as much muscle as it does fat. Walking on the other hand achieves the goal of fat loss, but spares more muscle tissue. This is purely anedoctal, but I have tested it many times over the years. My hack conclusion is that running, because of the intensity level, will burn calories long after the activity stops. Walking is more conservative and is a better match to a PL or BB program.

05-16-2006, 12:38 PM	#21
dontsurfonmytur Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,007	when i cut i never did more than one time a week cardio session . HIIT for as long as i can, but never went more than 23 minutes. But i will not do cardio again until i train for the MMAs

05-16-2006, 03:01 PM	#24
assassin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: egypt/cairo Posts: 2,150	ok u lose fat only if at the end of the day calories in < calories out that's why it's not the matter of u burn fat during the work out or after the work out or u may burn sugars and carbs and then ur body compensates by going to the fat storage...