is this enough for massive shoulders???

**assassin** · 05-02-2006, 05:53 PM

split
d1 chest **
d2 back+traps+rear delts
d3 rest
d4 legs+abs
d5 shoulders + bi&tri **
d6,7 rest
these are my push days ,,, is the shoulders getting enough work to grow ??

day1 chest
(3sets flat bar bench press 10,8,6 reps
2 sets flat dumbell press 8,6 reps
3 sets inclined db press 8-10
2-3 sets weighted dips 8-10
2 sets inclined cable flyes 10-12reps
1-2 sets cable cross overs)

day5 shoulders + arms

4 sets seated military presses 10;8;8,6 (week after 4 sets db seated presses alternating with military press)

4 sets lateral side raises

+bi and tri workout

(i'm cutting put still can add muscles while cutting cause i haven't been lifting for a long time just a couple of months)

**MyK** · 05-02-2006, 05:55 PM

F

**TJ Cline** · 05-02-2006, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by MyK

F

Please you know this is D+

**NMOY** · 05-02-2006, 06:27 PM

Wow... how old are you Assassin? The answer to your question is no.. there are so many things wrong with that.

**TJ Cline** · 05-02-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by assassin

split
d1 chest **
d2 back+traps+rear delts
d3 rest
d4 legs+abs
d5 shoulders + bi&tri **
d6,7 rest
these are my push days ,,, is the shoulders getting enough work to grow ??

day1 chest
(3sets flat bar bench press 10,8,6 reps
2 sets flat dumbell press 8,6 reps
3 sets inclined db press 8-10
2-3 sets weighted dips 8-10
2 sets inclined cable flyes 10-12reps
1-2 sets cable cross overs)

day5 shoulders + arms

4 sets seated military presses 10;8;8,6 (week after 4 sets db seated presses alternating with military press)

4 sets lateral side raises

+bi and tri workout

(i'm cutting put still can add muscles while cutting cause i haven't been lifting for a long time just a couple of months)

Push
off
legs
off
pull

or

chest, triceps
legs
off
back and biceps
off
Delts

**assassin** · 05-02-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by NMOY

Wow... how old are you Assassin? The answer to your question is no.. there are so many things wrong with that.

I'M 20 WHAT DO U THINK IS WRONG???

**assassin** · 05-02-2006, 06:31 PM

What's The Problem With Triceps With Delts?? I Don't Get It ...doing Triceps With Delts Is Just Like Doing It With Chest???(in Reply To Foreman Rules

**NMOY** · 05-02-2006, 06:32 PM

To me it looks like your are overtraining your chest, thats a TON of exercises and a ton of sets, also your shoulders are worked during your chest day, and then your working another part of your shoulder the following day? It seems that you will be working your small musculature more frequently than your large in this routine, which doesn't seem ideal.

**assassin** · 05-02-2006, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by NMOY

To me it looks like your are overtraining your chest, thats a TON of exercises and a ton of sets, also your shoulders are worked during your chest day, and then your working another part of your shoulder the following day? It seems that you will be working your small musculature more frequently than your large in this routine, which doesn't seem ideal.

i don't think this is over training for chest i feel good with that maybe i'll drop one or 2 sets but do u mean it's important to do the shoulders in the chest day???and if i didn't do it in chest day will just seated military and side raises will be enough for optimum shoulders training?

**mike456** · 05-02-2006, 06:38 PM

wow- after all the posts and info and hours of our time me an myk gave to you in ur othher posts u still stick to that shitty workout, whats the point of givin u advice if u dont take it!!

**Goodfella9783** · 05-02-2006, 06:45 PM

Don't listen to people who tell you your routine is stupid...Try it out and see how it works for you and you can adjust a little or completely switch it up, depending on what you think.

**assassin** · 05-02-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by mike456

wow- after all the posts and info and hours of our time me an myk gave to you in ur othher posts u still stick to that shitty workout, whats the point of givin u advice if u dont take it!!

ok it seems that i'll do push pull legs ..... really thnx for ur advice but i just wanna know why not doing shoulders with triceps on a seperate day

**assassin** · 05-02-2006, 06:50 PM

look i know it's a bit hard to me to make decissions but i guess it's almost over

**CowPimp** · 05-02-2006, 10:33 PM

Your shoulders have a head on the rear of your body. You might consider using those as well.

**mike456** · 05-03-2006, 07:29 AM

if anything your shoulders are being overtrained
they're gettin worked 3 times a week, try to cut it down to 2 by puttin the front and side shoulders with the chest and do rear shoulders with the back, and cut out all those chest exercises- 14 sets of chest is way too much
this is more than enough for chest:
Flat Bench 3 sets
Incline bench 3 sets
DB Flyes 2 sets
check out the routine i posted titled "i finally read the training stickies!"- i think it is a great workout just add in some calf raises if u do them, and instead of cable tricep dips do weighted tricep dips

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