Thread: Loonnngg hiatus

start lifting weights. You goal shouldn't be to get thinner. It should be to get learner. Don't worry about your body weight. If anything you are already to light.

Work with weigths, start with higher reps (12-15) and lower volume (2-3 sets) and work on technique, improving intra/intermuscular connection, raising work capacity and building back some strength and muscular endurance. After about 5-6 weeks start to increase the intensity (8-12 reps) and work a little heavier. Don't do to much cardio right from the start. get your diet in order, that is the most important part. read the stickies.

How tall are you, and age?
You sound fairly thin, I would agree with p-funk here fo sho.

Perhaps I painted a more dreadful picture than is true.

I'm not fat.. or anything like that.

I'm simply very unhappy with my physique.. whereas before I wasn't too ashamed of it.

My diet is pretty good, I eat at home almost exclusively minus a few times during the week (mostly weekend, hey I'm a college student)
Lean meats.. veggies, etc.. I don't eat fatty.


Age:20
Height:5Ft 8.5in or so
160 lbs or so

fat or not, you are coming back from a lay off. you need to start somewhere.

post your diet, meal by meal, with all the macros in the diet forum. they can help you there.

put together a training program and we can help you here.

But seriously, I don't want to build muscle again..

I look too *round* especially in t-shirts when I used to work out...

I don't like the muscular but with bodyfat look.. its too thick for me.

Originally Posted by Ralphie

But seriously, I don't want to build muscle again..

I look too *round* especially in t-shirts when I used to work out...

I don't like the muscular but with bodyfat look.. its too thick for me.

if you are eating in a caloric defecit and trying to loose fat then you are going to build muscle.....it doesn't work like that. you need to eat to gain muscle! Otherwise, you need to lift properly and with proper intensity to re-tain the small amount of muscle you do have. otherwise your metabolism will go to shit when you diet down and you will be even more skinny fat.

Originally Posted by P-funk

if you are eating in a caloric defecit and trying to loose fat then you are going to build muscle.....it doesn't work like that. you need to eat to gain muscle! Otherwise, you need to lift properly and with proper intensity to re-tain the small amount of muscle you do have. otherwise your metabolism will go to shit when you diet down and you will be even more skinny fat.

However, you may very well be able to gain some muscle mass and shed fat simultaneously if you are coming back from a very long hiatus. Enjoy while it lasts.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

However, you may very well be able to gain some muscle mass and shed fat simultaneously if you are coming back from a very long hiatus. Enjoy while it lasts.

true, but at 155lbs I think it would have to be down right fucking magic to make him blow up to what he considers "big". Pretty much lighting would have to strike.

Originally Posted by P-funk

true, but at 155lbs I think it would have to be down right fucking magic to make him blow up to what he considers "big". Pretty much lighting would have to strike.

Heh, also true.

Ummmm..... Yeah.......

Like I said before.. I don't want big..

So no magic is necessary here...

Ummmm.....Yeah....


and we are saying "don't worry. you wont get big. You don't have a shot in hell."

Originally Posted by P-funk

Ummmm.....Yeah....


and we are saying "don't worry. you wont get big. You don't have a shot in hell."

Bahahaha!

*sigh*

You guys need to learn how to read and stop being nazi bodybuilders here.

I said I don't want to build muscle again... I don't want to lift weights anymore, at least not right now. I don't care about muscle currently.


I am very aware that a caloric deficit means essentially no muscle building is possible...(without certain chemicals) I'm ok with that... In fact I don't want to build muscle currently... I'm perfectly fine with muscle loss right now.

Originally Posted by Ralphie

*sigh*

You guys need to learn how to read and stop being nazi bodybuilders here.

I said I don't want to build muscle again... I don't want to lift weights anymore, at least not right now. I don't care about muscle currently.


I am very aware that a caloric deficit means essentially no muscle building is possible...(without certain chemicals) I'm ok with that... In fact I don't want to build muscle currently... I'm perfectly fine with muscle loss right now.

a) neither of us are bodybuilders.

b) if you "don't want to lift weights anymore" and are "perfectly fine with muscle loss right now".....

then don't lifts weights. just run and run and run and eat less and run and run and eat less and run. Look out though because you will resemble that of a pre-pubescent girl more then an average guy. Couple that with muscle loss and a shot metabolism and the results you will have when you start eating again will be outstanding....think, skinny fat marathon runner build.

go for it dude!! You can do it!!

Jesus christ this is asinine.

I don't care if you're a bber or a powerlifter or a whatever

I came here looking for help on how to loose weight.

My diet is down, I'm not new to the whole dieting and eating properly deal.

Telling someone "To run and run and run and eat less" is alot like telling someone to just lift heavy stuff and eat more if they're looking to bulk up.

Just like training properly with weights, there are ways to properly run and jog.

I've since found sound advice on my mode of action.

Also, you don't know my bodytype.... I want to be slim. I look good slim, thanks for your concern, but frankly, I don't care.

Furthermore, and I'm sure you're aware of this, there are ways to ease your body back into the normal routine of things.. calories respective of maintaining current bodyweight and such.

I simply wanted advice on running/jogging or whatever kind of weight loss exercise you guys would recommend. Anyways, I've since found advice.



Thanks

Originally Posted by Ralphie

Jesus christ this is asinine.

I don't care if you're a bber or a powerlifter or a whatever

I came here looking for help on how to loose weight.

My diet is down, I'm not new to the whole dieting and eating properly deal.

Telling someone "To run and run and run and eat less" is alot like telling someone to just lift heavy stuff and eat more if they're looking to bulk up.

Just like training properly with weights, there are ways to properly run and jog.

I've since found sound advice on my mode of action.

Also, you don't know my bodytype.... I want to be slim. I look good slim, thanks for your concern, but frankly, I don't care.

Furthermore, and I'm sure you're aware of this, there are ways to ease your body back into the normal routine of things.. calories respective of maintaining current bodyweight and such.

I simply wanted advice on running/jogging or whatever kind of weight loss exercise you guys would recommend. Anyways, I've since found advice.



Thanks

We are saying weight loss comes from diet. You don't want to lift weight so DON'T FUCKING LIFT WEIGHTS.

Clearly you are a moron. Good luck on your ever long quest to get as big as my little sister.

I know weightloss comes from diet........................... its comes from diet +EXERCISE

Or at least exercise greatly supplements it.

Thanks for restating the obvious what, 2? 3 times now? don't lift weights?
hahah

All you've done is attack me in this thread. Great moderating skills buddy.

Thanks for all of your wisdom mod.

Originally Posted by Ralphie

I know weightloss comes from diet........................... its comes from diet +EXERCISE

Or at least exercise greatly supplements it.

Thanks for restating the obvious what, 2? 3 times now? don't lift weights?
hahah

All you've done is attack me in this thread. Great moderating skills buddy.

Thanks for all of your wisdom mod.

Dude:

you come here and ask a question

you get answers

you don't like the answers so you bitch about it

so then i give you the answers again, this time in an edgey-er manner

you still complain and claim that you don't want to workout and you already understand this stuff.


If you understand then why ask? Along with your skinniness comes your bitchiness....making you a....Skinny Little Bitch (SLB).

Originally Posted by P-funk

Dude:

you come here and ask a question

you get answers

you don't like the answers so you bitch about it

so then i give you the answers again, this time in an edgey-er manner

you still complain and claim that you don't want to workout and you already understand this stuff.


If you understand then why ask? Along with your skinniness comes your bitchiness....making you a....Skinny Little Bitch (SLB).

You keep this up and you will find yourself in the company of foreman and old toughy..Good job Patrick

Originally Posted by Ralphie

I said I don't want to build muscle again... I don't want to lift weights anymore, at least not right now. I don't care about muscle currently.

Originally Posted by Ralphie

I know weightloss comes from diet........................... its comes from diet +EXERCISE

Not necesary. You can loose weight without exercising. Simply ingest less calories than what you expend in a day and you wil loose weight (muscle+fat). Dont expect to look slim and ripped as the result will be a smaller version of yourself, which is what P has been saying.

That was for weight loss. If you want Fat loss, then you need to eat correctly while lifting properly to compell our body to keep the muscle. Without lifting your body has no reason to hang on to the muscle. You need to eat slightly under you caloric requirements so that your body burns the fat for energy and lift heavy enough so that it keep the muscle (and feed it properly as well). This will change your body composition and make you look less 'round' and more 'in shape'.

The previous way will make you a smaller version of yourself or really skinny with ribs and bones protruding. Dont worry about getting huge. It dosent just happen. Especially if you are eating less than your body needs for it to grow.

Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Not necesary. You can loose weight without exercising. Simply ingest less calories than what you expend in a day and you wil loose weight (muscle+fat). Dont expect to look slim and ripped as the result will be a smaller version of yourself, which is what P has been saying.

That was for weight loss. If you want Fat loss, then you need to eat correctly while lifting properly to compell our body to keep the muscle. Without lifting your body has no reason to hang on to the muscle. You need to eat slightly under you caloric requirements so that your body burns the fat for energy and lift heavy enough so that it keep the muscle (and feed it properly as well). This will change your body composition and make you look less 'round' and more 'in shape'.

The previous way will make you a smaller version of yourself or really skinny with ribs and bones protruding. Dont worry about getting huge. It dosent just happen. Especially if you are eating less than your body needs for it to grow.

Yes yes, I appreciate the advice. I'm not being rude here but as I've said before I know all of this.
I said exercise greatly supplements weight loss. Also allows you to eat a bit more.. and if anyone is like me, I supress my appetite by doing enduring exercises.. running... jogging.. etc.

In addition, I'm quite happy with the amount of muscle I have when I am/was a "SLB" I didn't have alot.. but asthetically it was appealing.

Originally Posted by P-funk

start lifting weights. You goal shouldn't be to get thinner. It should be to get learner. Don't worry about your body weight. If anything you are already to light.

Work with weigths, start with higher reps (12-15) and lower volume (2-3 sets) and work on technique, improving intra/intermuscular connection, raising work capacity and building back some strength and muscular endurance. After about 5-6 weeks start to increase the intensity (8-12 reps) and work a little heavier. Don't do to much cardio right from the start. get your diet in order, that is the most important part. read the stickies.

See that?

You gave me answers and solutions to what YOU THOUGHT I SHOULD DO

Not what I wanted to do.

Thanks, you made yourself look stupid. No effort from me is needed.

I bitched cause you never answered my questions or anything directed towards what I was asking.


If you don't understand this by now... well... maybe you should go back to school.
Rhe 101? 303? 306?

Originally Posted by Ralphie

See that?

You gave me answers and solutions to what YOU THOUGHT I SHOULD DO

Not what I wanted to do.

Thanks, you made yourself look stupid. No effort from me is needed.

I bitched cause you never answered my questions or anything directed towards what I was asking.


If you don't understand this by now... well... maybe you should go back to school.
Rhe 101? 303? 306?

You shouldnt bitch in the first place, its free advice. maybe if you took the initiative (the kind of initiative your going to need to achieve your goals) to search the site instead of demanding answers you would of found what you were looking for... but instead you were an ignorant prick who wised off to someone that was trying to help you. good idea genius

Originally Posted by fUnc17

You shouldnt bitch in the first place, its free advice. maybe if you took the initiative (the kind of initiative your going to need to achieve your goals) to search the site instead of demanding answers you would of found what you were looking for... but instead you were an ignorant prick who wised off to someone that was trying to help you. good idea genius

I think I just showed how he tried help me how HE THOUGHT I should be helped...

Not exactly the best way to *help* someone... I can understand if I were a completely ignorant individual who came stumbling in "Durr I want to loose weight, how do I do datt durr" Then fine, tell me how.

thanks, another dumbass reply by someone who can't read.

Originally Posted by Ralphie

I think I just showed how he tried help me how HE THOUGHT I should be helped...

Not exactly what I was looking for.

thanks, another dumbass reply by someone who can't read.

So now your giving advice to someone thats giving you advice on how to give you advice...

...move this to open where it belongs

'nuff said

Originally Posted by Ralphie

Primary Goal: Lose weight.

Originally Posted by Ralphie

I'm not being rude here but as I've said before I know all of this.

Then, it sounds like you already know the answer to your own question

Originally Posted by fUnc17

So now your giving advice to someone thats giving you advice on how to give you advice...

...move this to open where it belongs

'nuff said

You're able to make elementary logical connections..... so why doesn't this make sense to you?

Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Then, it sounds like you already know the answer to your own question

I know about dieting....

Does anyone read?

I came here about good exercises.. pertaining to running.. jogging.. etc.... or whatever you guys like to do.. and perhaps a routine to use....

Don't make me quote it.

Dear god

READ

I'm done with this thread.

I got some excellent responses over at Nexus, and Elitefitness.
Somehow they didn't think my question was very complicated.